Science and Religion

Here is a good article about the whole Galileo affair

Galileo and the impact on science

Quote: FrGamble

Here is a good article about the whole Galileo affair

Galileo and the impact on science

Magis Center, really? Here's their
goal:

'Our mission is to restore, reconstruct, and revitalize belief in God and the real presence of Jesus Christ'

Why would I ever read a biased
article by them on any subject.
Key word here is 'reconstruct'.
They want to rewrite history
to make their stifling crooked
horrible religion look better.

It's called history and is based on facts. Why don't you point out one historical fact that is wrong in the article?

Quote: FrGamble

It's called history and is based on facts.

It's called re-written history done
by the Vatican using their own
'facts'. I have no time to waste
on revised re-written biased
history.

Ok, just checking if you had any actual facts that could be shown to be wrong. Since you don't have any and you don't want to learn anything kindly don't respond anymore.

Quote: FrGamble

Ok, just checking if you had any actual facts that could be shown to be wrong. Since you don't have any and you don't want to learn anything kindly don't respond anymore.

So you want me to read a long
article written by Christians and
then take time I don't have and
research every detail to see if
they're right?

Really? Why on earth would I
do that. How many times over
the years have you taken
something I posted and totally
dismissed it because you said
the source was secular. Dozens?

I have never dismissed a link you posted because it was secular. I have dismissed links you've posted because they were literally crazy from fringe websites with disturbing lies and falsehoods. I don't care about if a source is secular, Christian, or whatever. I'm after the truth. If you were you would read the article when you have the time.

Quote: FrGamble

I don't care about if a source is secular, Christian, or whatever. I'm after the truth. .

Uh Huh, the truth. Here are other
articles from Magis:

Evidence of God from Contemporary Science & Philosophy

Contemporary Scientifically Validated Miracles Associated with Blessed Mary, Saints and the Holy Eucharist
(scientifically validated? Really? By real science?)

Philosophical Proof of God

Evidence for God from Physics and Philosophy

A Contemporary Thomistic Metaphysical Proof of God

Historical Evidence of Jesus’ Miracles

The Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist—History and Evidence

The Reality of Spiritual Evil



And many more. After seeing all this
unproven nonsense treated like
it's settled scientific fact, you want
me to believe the article you refer
to is factual? If all these articles are
nothing but scientific fact, how is it
that the Board of Science (or whatever
it's called) in the UK, that has some
of the worlds most prominent people in
the scientific community as it's
members, why are 92% of them
atheists? Why weren't they convinced
by all the overwhelming evidence
presented here. Because none of
it is evidence of anything more than
an active imagination and the desire
to fool the more gullible among us.

Why are they atheists? I don't know. I bet 100% would not agree with you that there is no possibility of God. In fact 100% would recognize the merits of the arguments for God which you won't even listen to. 100% of them would also say there is evidence that supports God's existence. So I don't know why there are atheists in the scientific community.

Sometimes it is because they reject religion and not God. They might do this because of personal or philosophical reasons, but they don't reject God. Others might simply not care about the question because they know it cannot be answered by science. Others say they are atheists because of professional or political pressure in our secular world to say that. Only thing I know for sure is that they do not claim to be atheists because of any evidence or reasoned argument.

Quote: FrGamble

Why are they atheists? I don't know.

Sure you do. There is no REAL
evidence of a god. There lots
of faux evidence that is really
just speculation and guesswork.
So they have no choice but
atheism.

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I bet 100% would not agree with you that there is no possibility of God.

There's a chance I might win the
lottery but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm certainly not basing my
lifestyle on the chance I might
win the lottery. Why would I base
it on somebody's opinion that
a god might exist. That's just
dumb. Here I am god, show
yourself and end the argument.

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Only thing I know for sure is that they do not claim to be atheists because of any evidence or reasoned argument.

It's LACK OF EVIDENCE!!! The same standard
we use to reject unicorns, Santa, Bigfoot,
and any other silly myth. You have a totally
screwed up view of the world. You think lack
of evidence is enough evidence to base
your entire lifestyle on. That's just nuts, why
would anybody choose to do that unless
they were compelled to because they had
flawed teaching when they were young. Or
somebody like CS Lewis who was obviously
just a goofball who's best friend even doubted
his sincerity.