Democratic Nominee in 2020

Quote: Gandler

Trump's whole existence "verges on the illegal" so that does not concern me if you are talking comparisons.....

I'd be glad to see side by ads comparing moral failings of Trump vs. Harris. The Republicans don't have a prayer. Or do they just want to look like total idiots?

Quote: kenarman

Haven't you read the book? In the libbies Brave New World 2+2=5 not 4.

Haven't you read the book? The policies of the far left are no less likely to get us to Brave New World than those of the far right.

Basically, it's just about systematic and absolute control of the populace...which both sides (far fringes) support, just in different ways.

Quote: kenarman

So we have just got down to the usual answer "but Trump". I had hoped you would actually address the issue.

What issue? That she dated somebody older than her decades ago? And, that he was technically married (separated for over 10 years) at the time?
Neither of these offend me, nor is there anything objectively wrong, so I don't know what answer you want from me?

As for the part where he may have given her a job because of their relationship? Maybe, or maybe he was helping out party friends like the others and she was the most qualified (she does actually have a pretty impressive resume)? Lots of speculating about a relatively nonissue from decades ago....
Even if he gave her the job for no other reason than they were sleeping together (I don't believe that), I am not sure why it matters, she did amazing while appointed to those boards, that is all that should matter. This is quite a stretch by cons to obsess this much about who she dated decades ago....

Quote: Gandler

What issue? That she dated somebody older than her decades ago? And, that he was technically married (separated for over 10 years) at the time?
Neither of these offend me, nor is there anything objectively wrong, so I don't know what answer you want from me?

As for the part where he may have given her a job because of their relationship? Maybe, or maybe he was helping out party friends like the others and she was the most qualified (she does actually have a pretty impressive resume)? Lots of speculating about a relatively nonissue from decades ago....
Even if he gave her the job for no other reason than they were sleeping together (I don't believe that), I am not sure why it matters, she did amazing while appointed to those boards, that is all that should matter. This is quite a stretch by cons to obsess this much about who she dated decades ago....

I'm not voting Biden/Harris, but none of this is of any concern to me even if I were thinking about it, even if she had sucked...at the job.

Seriously, who cares? Is there an industry/occupation where people don't try to do favors/get jobs for those they like who are more-or-less qualified in the same (or similar) occupation?

Even if she had dated him specifically for the purpose of occupational advantage, why should anyone care about that? It'll hardly be the first time in history something like that has happened.

The Left asks: Why was it such a problem when it was Clinton?

The Right asks: Why wasn't it a problem when it was Clinton?

Moral personal conduct should either be relevant, or not. I say not, unless you're a religious individual...then maybe you care...but moral regulation is basically the name of the game in that realm. I don't think it should be selectively relevant, in any case, so I guess I agree with the majority of both sides in theory (based on the above questions) if not in actual practice.

I don't know or care what kind of job that she did on those boards, though I must admit that I'm impressed by anyone being committed enough to this whole affair to have actually researched it. I certainly wouldn't. POTUS is six of one, half dozen of the other, anyway. As long as neither side controls both the House/Senate, then it should be more-or-less fine.

Quote: Mission146

Seriously, who cares? .

Spoken like a true Libbie. We're
supposed to care immensely
when it's Kavanaugh being
accused of totally bogus and
unproven allegations, or Bork
with the pubic hair on a Coke
can, or Trump and Sleazy
Daniels. But any claims against
a Lib is always, move on, nothing
to see here.

Quote: Evenbob

Spoken like a true Libbie. We're
supposed to care immensely
when it's Kavanaugh being
accused of totally bogus and
unproven allegations, or Bork
with the pubic hair on a Coke
can, or Trump and Sleazy
Daniels. But any claims against
a Lib is always, move on, nothing
to see here.

I called out the Kavanaugh claims as being ridiculous to bring up at the time they were first brought up. Check my post history, homeslice. I’m also not a liberal. Much less than taking the Swetnick claims at face value, I also expressed my opinion that Avenatti seemed like a PoS, and that was prior to any dirt coming out on him. Greasy.

I don’t care if Trump nailed Stormy Daniels, or not. Don’t really care if he paid her not to talk about it, though that’s perhaps a little more shady.

I just love the mental gymnastics involved in watching the defenses/attacks on one, but not the other. I’m not voting for either, much less do I care what they do personally.

Kavanaugh, Clinton and Trump are/were also about potential assault allegations.

Quote: rxwine

Kavanaugh, Clinton and Trump are/were also about potential assault allegations.

And Biden.

Quote: Mission146

I called out the Kavanaugh claims as being ridiculous to bring up at the time they were first brought up. Check my post history, homeslice. I’m also not a liberal. Much less than taking the Swetnick claims at face value, I also expressed my opinion that Avenatti seemed like a PoS, and that was prior to any dirt coming out on him. Greasy.

I don’t care if Trump nailed Stormy Daniels, or not. Don’t really care if he paid her not to talk about it, though that’s perhaps a little more shady.

I just love the mental gymnastics involved in watching the defenses/attacks on one, but not the other. I’m not voting for either, much less do I care what they do personally.

Well he did order her to be paid from Campaign Funds which is illegal (and why Cohen was incarcerated).

That being said I generally agree. I don't care what people do in their personal lives. But, I find it ironic that religious social conservatives are finding ways to bend over backwards to praise Trump for having affairs, and being a "man's man" while nitpicking who Harris dated decades ago....

Quote: kenarman

Did I even mention cheating in my post. She sleeps with somebody 30 years older with enough juice to get her a job that is a stepping stone to politics, that is the story.

If that is true I look at it in a completely different manner. She is dedicated to her job and is willing to go to extremes to achieve it. I admire the dedication of someone like that. If it isn't injuring others I welcome it. I would want a politician doing whatever is necessary for their cause.