Did god create the sun twice? (split-off)

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May 29th, 2018 at 5:49:44 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Evenbob
Your analogy was so bad I just
couldn't take anymore. No Xtion
can explain trinity, you made my
point perfectly.


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May 29th, 2018 at 5:54:18 PM permalink
pew
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If you can figure out how to get Evenbob out of a religious thread I think you just may understand the Trinity.
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May 29th, 2018 at 5:57:59 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard
Shows you what I know, or don't know.
God created light on the first day, the sun on the forth day.
May 29th, 2018 at 6:23:04 PM permalink
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Quote: pew
God created light on the first day, the sun on the forth day.


Okay, let's take a close examination here.

Quote: Genesis 1:1-19

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.


It sounds to me like god created the sun twice. How was there morning and night (verse 5) if god didn't create the sun until verse 16?

p.s. If this garners more than a few responses, I'll split it off to a separate thread.
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May 29th, 2018 at 6:29:26 PM permalink
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The Lord is getting me back for being a little sarcastic and fighting with Evenbob because I echo his words with this discussion about when the sun was made as if Genesis was meant to be a science textbook or literal history. To quote Evenbob, "it is silly".
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May 29th, 2018 at 6:41:03 PM permalink
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What's the problem? Light doesn't come just from the sun does it?
May 29th, 2018 at 6:42:12 PM permalink
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Quote: FrGamble
I echo his words with this discussion about when the sun was made as if Genesis was meant to be a science textbook or literal history. To quote Evenbob, "it is silly".


Wow, it is not often you can get a Christian to say this bible isn't absolutely correct and inerrant in all aspects, including science and history. Catholicism is looking better and better, FrG.
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May 29th, 2018 at 6:43:16 PM permalink
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Quote: pew
What's the problem? Light doesn't come just from the sun does it?


Uh, maybe god created a light bulb first?
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May 29th, 2018 at 6:57:14 PM permalink
pew
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Quote: Wizard
Uh, maybe god created a light bulb first?
Again we go back to the stumbling block of unbelief. You can't describe the color red to someone born blind. Heat gives light. God gives light. Jesus is the light of the world. There is the light of understanding. There's all kinds of light. Light bulbs of all sorts. God creating light on day one and plants before the sun is not a scientific problem or question.
May 29th, 2018 at 7:39:29 PM permalink
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Quote: pew
Again we go back to the stumbling block of unbelief. You can't describe the color red to someone born blind. Heat gives light. God gives light. Jesus is the light of the world. There is the light of understanding. There's all kinds of light. Light bulbs of all sorts. God creating light on day one and plants before the sun is not a scientific problem or question.


Oy! The stumbling block of blind faith.

Quote: Genesis 1:5
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


So this "light of understanding" or the "light of the world" divided night and day, but not the sun. Right. Again, so glad to not be on your team.
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