Is The Supernatural Real?

Quote: Mosca

If the supernatural was real, it would be the natural.

It is natural in the sense of its importance. The fact that we ignore the supernatural or pretend it doesn't exist has devastating effects in our society and on who we are as people. It is un-natural if you will to be just focused on the stuff we see and to think that stuff can make us happy or fulfilled.

Quote: FrGamble

It is natural in the sense of its importance. The fact that we ignore the supernatural or pretend it doesn't exist has devastating effects in our society and on who we are as people.

Them witches need burning Padre?

I don't pretend that it does exist.

I bet you don't pretend that it does not exist either.

Quote: FrGamble

The fact that we ignore the supernatural or pretend it doesn't exist has devastating effects in our society

So we should go back to the days
when superstition was the rule
and everybody believed in vampires
and witches and demons and they
killed cats because cats are connected
to the devil?

Yeah, those were fun times for the Church,
they promoted all that crap and ruled
over it. Now all you have is a failing
religion where nobody goes to mass or
confession and every Catholic who wants
to uses contraception. The supernatural
was exposed as a fraud and you lost all
of your power.

If superstition is what you think supernatural means then we are on different planets!

I'm talking about realizing that as human beings we desire more than material things. We seek to be loved and to love. This supernatural longing in us also seeks to serve and work and feel we accomplish something. We just don't feel right watching Netflix all day. Something supernatural in us longs for more.

We desire to be challenged and to pursue excellence!

Quote: Mosca

If the supernatural was real, it would be the natural.

You're absolutely right.

Quote: Wizard

You're absolutely right.

And that's the point I made when
you asked about reincarnation.
You said how is it not supernatural.
Because if it does happen, it's a
a natural part of the life/death cycle
and there would be nothing supernatural
about it.

Quote: Evenbob

And that's the point I made when
you asked about reincarnation.
You said how is it not supernatural.
Because if it does happen, it's a
a natural part of the life/death cycle
and there would be nothing supernatural
about it.

I meant that would be the case if it could be assumed to be true, which I don't grant by a mile.

My main point being you shouldn't badger FrG endlessly about believing in something which can't be proven when you do the same thing.

Quote: Wizard

My main point being you shouldn't badger FrG endlessly about believing in something which can't be proven when you do the same thing.

How so. I don't 'believe' in reincarnation,
it's not a religion. I certainly find it interesting
that reliable science is involved & has uncovered
things that can't be explained and could
point in certain directions. If FrG has scientific
evidence that points to there being a god,
he's certainly kept it to himself.