Does Religion Make People Moral?

December 2nd, 2017 at 5:41:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Saying all morality comes from some god
you can't prove exists is like saying all fried
chicken comes from Col Sanders. And I can
prove HE existed, so I have a head start on
that.. lol
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December 2nd, 2017 at 5:54:23 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: FrGamble
There you go
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December 2nd, 2017 at 5:55:26 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
Saying all morality comes from some god
you can't prove exists is like saying all fried
chicken comes from Col Sanders. And I can
prove HE existed, so I have a head start on
that.. lol


It's a little more complicated than that. First I would think you would agree that all fried chicken comes from somewhere other than yourself. Then you can see that there are a lot of stores all presenting the same thing, fried chicken, but with slightly different flavors. Then we return to the question of where this chicken first came from? It is not from you, nor is it from any one person; be it Col. Sanders, Popeye, or Royal Farms. There is something that predates both the chicken and the egg, which gives us a universal notion of how to cook fried chicken and how to do it right. It is immediately obvious to any and all of us when it is done wrong, it tastes awful and makes us sick. So it clear that this is a universal truth grounded in something beyond us and that we can't change the recipe no matter how hard we try.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 5:58:14 PM permalink
FrGamble
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petro, you should probably start another thread with this, it is only a distraction here. We could also look at ancient Israel and they too were attacked many times.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 8:46:36 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
It's a little more complicated than that. First I would think you would agree that all fried chicken comes from somewhere


Yeah, it was a joke about the the provable
reality of god and Col Sanders, not a question
about where chicken came from. Point being
I have 14 different kinds of proof there was
an actual Col Sanders and you have zero proof
there is now or ever was a god.

Never mind.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 6:07:30 AM permalink
pew
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"To this day there are people using Christianity to justify racial dominance and slavery." Could you please elaborate?
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:23:53 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
Yeah, it was a joke about the the provable
reality of god and Col Sanders, not a question
about where chicken came from. Point being
I have 14 different kinds of proof there was
an actual Col Sanders and you have zero proof
there is now or ever was a god.

Never mind.


It was a workable analogy and I think showed that you weren't really thinking through the idea. You just wanted to make a dig or some witty point. Why don't you give a few of the different kinds of proof you have for Col Sanders existence in another thread and I will use those same kinds of proof to show you that God exists.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 10:50:54 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Why don't you give a few of the different kinds of proof you have for Col Sanders existence in another thread and I will use those same kinds of proof to show you that God exists.


You want me to post pics of Sanders,
his birth certificate, and commercials
of him on TV, so you can produce
similar evidence for god? What a waste
of time that would be on my part. Quit
being silly..

We've already seen your evidence, you
have none. Nobody does or there would
be no atheists. We all believe in gravity
because it's provable. God is just a theory,
wishful thinking.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 11:23:23 AM permalink
Wizard
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I suspect Colonel Sanders was really only a second lieutenant.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 11:38:07 AM permalink
Dalex64
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I suspect Colonel Sanders was really only a second lieutenant.


Like how Cap'n Crunch is only a Commander?
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