The Holy Trinity
May 27th, 2018 at 2:08:55 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Jesus is long dead. If the concept of a trinity was presented to him in his time, he would reject it just as the Jews reject it now. The trinity is pagan doctrine and involves idol worship and Jesus would have rejected it out of hand.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 3:45:45 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Jesus taught it. It is not pagan, nor is it idol worship. You are weird. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 27th, 2018 at 4:11:21 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
"Never! He may have used the expression's “The Father,” “the Son,” “holy spirit,” on occasion, but never, ever, EVER in any context from which someone could logically draw a belief in the Trinity Doctrine." It's a fiction, and a dumb one at that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 4:32:07 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
It is only you who believe in a fiction, and a dumb one at that. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 27th, 2018 at 4:44:42 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Yeah, no. But we've already had long and boring discussions about the trinity being ridiculous, I have no intention of going over all that again. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 5:58:16 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 | At a forum I was active in during the late 90's there was a prolific poster that would give EB a run for his money today. 50% of his posts were an effort to expose the trinity as a concept out of the pit of hell. He would later write this book about it: God is One and Christ is All: Biblical Truth Against the Trinity. While I take no position on the matter, he had many compelling arguments. He also seemed to have a cult-like focus and dedication to the topic. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
May 27th, 2018 at 6:52:39 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
"The development of the Trinity is called to account for adopting pagan, philosophical and even anti-Christian (Gnostic) views of God and Christ. Ultimately, the evidence presented proves conclusively that the Trinity dogma is not a Biblical dogma. Rather, it is a man-made falsehood that is contrary to the Jesus that the apostles admonished all men to believe in.." Trinity is silliness that nobody can explain because it was developed to have no explanation that makes sense. That way it remains a big 'mystery' for all to ooh and aah over. The mystery is why anybody would believe such nonsense to start with. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 7:22:39 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Tom would agree that the doctrine is silly because it is man-made and not rooted in the bible. He could probably quote at least 100 passages that say that there is one god white the word trinity or any variant of it appears nowhere in the bible. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
May 27th, 2018 at 7:29:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
The biggest problem with the trinity, beyond it being nonsense, is it was developed specifically so it has no explainable definition. Nobody knows what it means, because it means nothing. This guarantee's it a spot in divinity, don't you see. An unexplainable mystery! But it's manmade to BE a mystery, so it counts for nothing. FrG will squak and jump up and down waving his arms at this, and offer a totally non understandable definition of the trinity. Thereby proving my point exactly. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 8:08:10 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Here is a good article that debunks the idea that the Christian teaching of the Trinity has anything to do with pagan myths. Pagan Trinities The idea that Scripture doesn't support the Trinity is just not true. I wish I could see Tom's work or some of the Scripture quotes he uses, but as we have seen from Evenbob there is often so many mistakes in using the Scriptures. For example he recently tried to misuse the quote from the end of Jesus' parable of the king's wedding feast. We also have to be aware that the Trinity is something that the early Church and the Apostles and the Church Fathers are held as being taught by Christ. It seems odd to think that Tom seems to know better than those who knew Christ and heard His teaching first hand. In regards to the Trinity itself the most important thing to understand is that the very nature or essence of God is relationship and community. Surely this resonates with us and is easily understandable. We are all made for relationships with others and community. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |