The Holy Trinity

May 27th, 2018 at 2:08:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Not quite sure where you are going with this?


Jesus is long dead. If the concept of
a trinity was presented to him in his
time, he would reject it just as the Jews
reject it now. The trinity is pagan
doctrine and involves idol worship
and Jesus would have rejected it out
of hand..
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May 27th, 2018 at 3:45:45 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Jesus taught it. It is not pagan, nor is it idol worship. You are weird.
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May 27th, 2018 at 4:11:21 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Jesus taught it.


"Never! He may have used the expression's “The Father,” “the Son,” “holy spirit,” on occasion, but never, ever, EVER in any context from which someone could logically draw a belief in the Trinity Doctrine."

It's a fiction, and a dumb one at that.
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May 27th, 2018 at 4:32:07 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
"Never! He may have used the expression's “The Father,” “the Son,” “holy spirit,” on occasion, but never, ever, EVER in any context from which someone could logically draw a belief in the Trinity Doctrine."

It's a fiction, and a dumb one at that.


It is only you who believe in a fiction, and a dumb one at that.
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May 27th, 2018 at 4:44:42 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
It is only you who believe in a fiction,


Yeah, no. But we've already had long
and boring discussions about the
trinity being ridiculous, I have no
intention of going over all that again.
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May 27th, 2018 at 5:58:16 PM permalink
Wizard
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At a forum I was active in during the late 90's there was a prolific poster that would give EB a run for his money today. 50% of his posts were an effort to expose the trinity as a concept out of the pit of hell. He would later write this book about it: God is One and Christ is All: Biblical Truth Against the Trinity. While I take no position on the matter, he had many compelling arguments. He also seemed to have a cult-like focus and dedication to the topic.
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May 27th, 2018 at 6:52:39 PM permalink
Evenbob
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He would later write this book about it: God is One and Christ is All: Biblical Truth Against the Trinity.


"The development of the Trinity is called to account for adopting pagan, philosophical and even anti-Christian (Gnostic) views of God and Christ. Ultimately, the evidence presented proves conclusively that the Trinity dogma is not a Biblical dogma. Rather, it is a man-made falsehood that is contrary to the Jesus that the apostles admonished all men to believe in.."

Trinity is silliness that nobody can explain
because it was developed to have no
explanation that makes sense. That way
it remains a big 'mystery' for all to ooh
and aah over. The mystery is why anybody
would believe such nonsense to start with.
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May 27th, 2018 at 7:22:39 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Evenbob
Trinity is silliness that nobody can explain
because it was developed to have no
explanation that makes sense. That way
it remains a big 'mystery' for all to ooh
and aah over. The mystery is why anybody
would believe such nonsense to start with.


Tom would agree that the doctrine is silly because it is man-made and not rooted in the bible. He could probably quote at least 100 passages that say that there is one god white the word trinity or any variant of it appears nowhere in the bible.
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May 27th, 2018 at 7:29:23 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
He could probably quote at least 100 passages that say that there is one god white the word trinity or any variant of it appears nowhere in the bible.


The biggest problem with the trinity,
beyond it being nonsense, is it was
developed specifically so it has no
explainable definition. Nobody knows
what it means, because it means nothing.

This guarantee's it a spot in divinity, don't
you see. An unexplainable mystery! But
it's manmade to BE a mystery, so it counts
for nothing. FrG will squak and jump up
and down waving his arms at this,
and offer a totally non understandable
definition of the trinity. Thereby proving
my point exactly.
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May 27th, 2018 at 8:08:10 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Here is a good article that debunks the idea that the Christian teaching of the Trinity has anything to do with pagan myths.

Pagan Trinities

The idea that Scripture doesn't support the Trinity is just not true. I wish I could see Tom's work or some of the Scripture quotes he uses, but as we have seen from Evenbob there is often so many mistakes in using the Scriptures. For example he recently tried to misuse the quote from the end of Jesus' parable of the king's wedding feast. We also have to be aware that the Trinity is something that the early Church and the Apostles and the Church Fathers are held as being taught by Christ. It seems odd to think that Tom seems to know better than those who knew Christ and heard His teaching first hand.

In regards to the Trinity itself the most important thing to understand is that the very nature or essence of God is relationship and community. Surely this resonates with us and is easily understandable. We are all made for relationships with others and community.
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