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| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 7596 | Already been there would love to go back. The happiest people I have ever met! “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
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| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 25978 | Quote: FrGamble Already been there would love to go back. The happiest people I have ever met!
So where is it this summer. Panama? Chili? Texas? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
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| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 7596 | It might be Russia, but we have to keep it kind off secret. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
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| Wizard Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
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Posts: 6108 | Quote: FrGamble Words allude me for your staggering hubris and ignorance.
I'm going to serve a lot of time in purgatory for this, but rules are rules. Personal insult -- three-day suspension. The record shall so state that EB declined to press charges and I think opened the door for an apology/retraction, but the opportunity was not seized. I think both of you could use a cooling down period anyway. See you in three days, Padre. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
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| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 22933 | Quote: Wizard The record shall so state that EB declined to press charges
I do think you should give some consideration to a rule change if someone outright doesn't want an insult rule enforced. If someone cries no foul, no harm, as I see it. (at least here, in real cases I wouldn't agree as there could be mitigating factors) "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
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| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 12569 | Quote: Wizard I'm going to serve a lot of time in purgatory for this, but rules are rules.
hubristic (adj.) 1831, from Greek hybristikos "given to wantonness, insolent," from hybrizein "to wax wanton, run riot" . Certainly one of the most educated personal insults so far. I was always fond of: “Thou leathern-jerkin, crystal-button, knot-pated, agatering, puke-stocking, caddis-garter, smooth-tongue, Spanish pouch!”, but I won't use it against anyone.  |
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| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 2019 | Quote: FrGamble God does exist and it has nothing to do with what I say. It is because of logic, reason, and evidence. You can't just say something exists and they exist. That sounds crazy. Deal with the arguments and remember it is okay to admit God exists. I sometimes think people are scared to admit even the possibility of God. Maybe they hate being wrong, maybe the people they look up to don't believe in God, maybe they think it would automatically betray their political or social views. Just recognizing God's existence is just being a sound thinking person and then you can apply reason, logic, and evidence to your other views and maybe some will change or stay the same. Don't be scared or bullied by the likes of Evenbob or the fear of change into ignoring truth.
Padre - I am my own man - not an EvenBob sycophant at all (although he and I agree on religion) You cannot make a claim that something exists without proof thereof -- yet, you attempt to reverse the roles and ask atheists to prove that "God" does not exist -- it's like my prior example, prove to me that an invisible, inaudible, undetectable dinosaur does not live in my backyard -- you dismissed the analogy but gave no good reason for doing such -- if you do not have to prove "God" exists, then why should I have to prove that my invisible, inaudible, undetectable dinosaur doesn't live in my backyard Perhaps more eloquently stated by the great Carl Sagan: Quote: Carl Sagan "A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!
"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon.
"Where's the dragon?" you ask.
"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."
You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.
"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."
Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.
"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."
You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.
"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick."
And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.
Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so.
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| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 2019 | Quote: FrGamble Bob, in regards to your comparison to Santa Claus you are viewing God like a little child. White beards and lists of whose good and bad, come on grow up. Let me just say that if God did keep lists we would all be in trouble. Those "lists"were destroyed by the loving sacrifice of Christ. Confession is a celebration of the fact that we are loved, forgiven, and saved by God.
Bob, I think you are really confused about this "no-thing" thing you keep bringing up. If you can't prove a negative then why as an atheist do you say there is no God. Is someone forcing you to be an atheist? Now a days that is very possible with all the persecution thw Church is experiencing around the world. Why would you chose to claim a neagtive is absolutely true and certain if you yourself said you can't prove it? I don't care if you don't collect stamps but please stop telling me stamps don't exist. Just say you've never seen a stamp, a lot of smart people never saw any stamps, and you don't think there is any evidence of stamps. However, don't then say you are certain that no stamps exist.
Finally, I've come to learn that most often when you say something like "why bother..." followed by some insulting excuse you really have nothing and were caught bluffing.
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| Wizard Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
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Posts: 6108 | Quote: rxwine I do think you should give some consideration to a rule change if someone outright doesn't want an insult rule enforced.
I considered it for about two seconds and decided against it. In borderline cases, a complaint will be taken under advisement, but the forum would turn into a cesspool if a complaint were required of the victim. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
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| Wizard Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
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Posts: 6108 | Quote: Pacomartin Certainly one of the most educated personal insults so far.
Yes, I'll give FrG all due credit for one of the best. Quote: I was always fond of: “Thou leathern-jerkin, crystal-button, knot-pated, agatering, puke-stocking, caddis-garter, smooth-tongue, Spanish pouch!”, but I won't use it against anyone.
Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from cinema: "Well, well, well, well. If it isn't fat, stinking billygoat Billy-Boy in poison. How art thou, thou globby bottle of cheap, stinking chip-oil? Come and get one in the yarbles, if you have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou." Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
