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September 4th, 2020 at 2:22:51 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: ams288
Fox News has confirmed the report.


Which means as much as any other MSM.

Murdoch has been looking to switch sides for a while because he always wants to be on the winning side and personally he hates Trump. There will be room for a new right wing media soon as Murdoch completes the switch at Fox if Trump doesn't drop him first. He did the same thing in England when he switched from supporting the Conservative party to supporting the Labour party.

"At the same time, Trump may be planning to dump Fox before the Murdochs dump him. He’s embracing the alternate conservative cable voice, the One America News Network (OAN)."
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
September 4th, 2020 at 2:46:10 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: kenarman
Which means as much as any other MSM.


....so it’s true. lol
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
September 4th, 2020 at 4:31:57 PM permalink
Gandler
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There appears to be more legitimacy to Trump's alleged disparaging fallen Marines. He certainly has a history of calling servicemembers losers when they "fail".

https://www.businessinsider.com/progressive-veteran-groups-trump-dead-soldiers-losers-report-2020-9

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/04/909599762/trump-faces-fallout-from-report-he-calls-military-losers-and-suckers

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/03/what-biden-win-4-more-years-trump-would-mean-military/5655845002/

"While neither Trump nor Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden served in the military, a Military Times survey out this week found that 41% of active-duty troops said they'd vote for Biden and 37% said Trump, even though only 16% of the 1,018 troops polled in July and August identify as Democrats. Roughly half of respondents had an unfavorable view of the president, compared with about 38% who had a favorable view. "


"Trump has cast himself as a champion of those in uniform, boasting that he "completely rebuilt" the military (not true) and gave troops their first pay raise in 10 years (also not true). "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/05/05/trump-says-he-supports-troops-his-record-says-otherwise-our-view/4870524002/#/questions
"Historically, American soldiers have tended to be more conservative and Republican-leaning than the population at large. Yet polls suggest that troops are beginning to sour on this GOP president. Since Trump's election, the percentage of service members disapproving of his performance has gone from a third to half of the nation's fighting force. "
(I am sure when conservatives see this suddenly they will be against mail in ballots for the military too)
September 4th, 2020 at 4:55:47 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
There appears to be more legitimacy to Trump's alleged disparaging fallen Marines. He certainly has a history of calling servicemembers losers when they "fail".


It has been debunked left and right. TDS sufferers might find it believable. His history with the military shows otherwise.

It was a made-up story to get the Pelosi salon scandal off the news.

Ask yourself why they would break something so big on a Friday before a holiday weekend if it was true. If it was true they would breal it on a Monday afternoon.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
September 4th, 2020 at 5:09:26 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
It has been debunked left and right. TDS sufferers might find it believable. His history with the military shows otherwise.

It was a made-up story to get the Pelosi salon scandal off the news.

Ask yourself why they would break something so big on a Friday before a holiday weekend if it was true. If it was true they would breal it on a Monday afternoon.


I have not seen it debunked. I find it a believable statement based on his past statements and overall character. I mean I have heard him say on live TV equally disgusting comments.

He already lied about his story (saying he called his wife at home, who was confirmed to be with him at the time), so even his own defense is full of holes....
September 4th, 2020 at 5:16:25 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
I have not seen it debunked. I find it a believable statement based on his past statements and overall character. I mean I have heard him say on live TV equally disgusting comments.

He already lied about his story (saying he called his wife at home, who was confirmed to be with him at the time), so even his own defense is full of holes....


Because you believe it. It has been debunked. They cannot even say who their sources are.

His respect for the military is well known. For the rank and file soldiers. That he returned an attack on McCain means nothing.
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September 4th, 2020 at 5:40:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
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11 people who are on that trip with Trump in 2018 have now come forward and said he never said those things. So we have 11 people, real actual people who were there, debunking the story period and we have some anonymous person on the other side claiming it happened. G who should we believe. The whole thing is ridiculous.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 4th, 2020 at 5:49:18 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Evenbob
11 people who are on that trip with Trump in 2018 have now come forward and said he never said those things. So we have 11 people, real actual people who were there, debunking the story period and we have some anonymous person on the other side claiming it happened. G who should we believe. The whole thing is ridiculous.


Yet you believe the anonymous story about some Democrat agent (I guess, whatever the term would be) rigging thousands of ballots without question....
September 4th, 2020 at 7:40:14 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Gandler
Yet you believe the anonymous story about some Democrat agent (I guess, whatever the term would be) rigging thousands of ballots without question....


i do? What are you talking about.
I never get in that discussion, I
think the fraud on both sides
cancels each other out.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 4th, 2020 at 8:25:58 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Evenbob
i do? What are you talking about.
I never get in that discussion, I
think the fraud on both sides
cancels each other out.


Well I apologize, you must be the first conservative here to agree that it is a nonissue.