The Trump implosion thread!

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February 20th, 2019 at 12:10:56 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
I read the following the other day, but can't confirm the accuracy. Any woman giving birth on a plane within 12 nautical miles of the US can claim US citizenship for the baby.


I think that would depend on the flag of the carrier. Just from what legal training I have, though that is not a ton.
The President is a fink.
February 20th, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: JimRockford
Barriers in urban areas such as Dan Diego, El Paso, Laredo, Brownsville can be effective, but those walls are already there. In remote areas where law enforcement response times are long they are ineffective. If you're athletic you don't even need a ladder. It is a growing sport to see how fast you can climb to the top and back down, check youtube. However to get a family across requires a ladder. As I said, it's routine


Then you make a double wall, with a dead-zone ion-between. The biggest proof that a wall would be effective is the opposition from everyone from Mexico to Democrats. It it was not effective they would not care. Follow the vested interest. The rest of the objections are sightseeing.
The President is a fink.
February 20th, 2019 at 12:39:46 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
It is already illegal to overstay a tourist visa.


Ha! That's cute.

It's illegal to sneak across the border, but it's not illegal to overstay a tourist visa. Not only is it not a felony... it's not even a misdemeanor! If an immigrant gets caught overstaying his visa, all the feds can do is deport him and politely request that he not return for either 3 years or 10 years (depending upon how long he overstayed.)

Quote: Senator Ted Cruz
It has been estimated that approximately 40 percent of the illegal immigrants currently in the United States originally came here legally, but are overstaying their visas. Although it is a federal misdemeanor to illegally enter the country, it is not currently a federal crime to overstay a visa.

Trump wants you to believe that illegal immigration is a national emergency. But if it's such a national emergency, maybe Trump should quit playing golf and do something about visa overstays.

Hey AZ- how about a friendly $1 wager? On Trump's last day in office (January 20, 2021), visa overstays still won't be criminalized?
February 20th, 2019 at 12:57:03 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
Ha! That's cute.

It's illegal to sneak across the border, but it's not illegal to overstay a tourist visa. Not only is it not a felony... it's not even a misdemeanor! If an immigrant gets caught overstaying his visa, all the feds can do is deport him and politely request that he not return for either 3 years or 10 years (depending upon how long he overstayed.)


Since you are getting booted that to me would fall under illegal.

Quote:
Trump wants you to believe that illegal immigration is a national emergency. But if it's such a national emergency, maybe Trump should quit playing golf and do something about visa overstays.

Hey AZ- how about a friendly $1 wager? On Trump's last day in office (January 20, 2021), visa overstays still won't be criminalized?


No bet. But as to "doing something" he has tried a few things, like the muslim ban. Much to to to get commonsense immigration policies. I'd repeal the 1964 immigration law and go back to what we had before, far tighter controls.
The President is a fink.
February 20th, 2019 at 2:12:59 PM permalink
JimRockford
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Quote: AZDuffman
Then you make a double wall, with a dead-zone ion-between. The biggest proof that a wall would be effective is the opposition from everyone from Mexico to Democrats. It it was not effective they would not care. Follow the vested interest. The rest of the objections are sightseeing.

We're taking another lap around this track? We know that Democrats are for open borders because they are against more border fence and fences are effective. We know that fences are effective because democrats are against them and didn't I just prove they are for open borders?
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
February 20th, 2019 at 2:33:11 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
But as to "doing something" he has tried a few things, like the muslim ban.


Good point! Trump should ban all tourist visas for citizens of Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, & Honduras.* With the stroke of a pen, he could eliminate 40% of undocumented immigration overnight. Call Pelosi's bluff! She'd be begging him to build a wall.

Would it get bogged down by lawsuits? In the short run, yes, but in the long run he'd probably win. After all, in July 2018 the Supreme Court upheld the Muslim ban, so he's got a decent chance of winning.

Isn't it odd that Trump hasn't done this? What's he waiting for?

(*There are actually more illegal immigrants in the U.S. from China than Honduras, but Trump's gullible supporters think a wall will solve the problem, so let's not talk about China.)
February 20th, 2019 at 2:51:05 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: reno
(*There are actually more illegal immigrants in the U.S. from China than Honduras, but Trump's gullible supporters think a wall will solve the problem, so let's not talk about China.)
So fine, let's build a wall around China....oh wait. j/k

With the invasion of Venezuela scheduled to start Saturday, there might be new hoards of Venezuelan immigrants, escaping the destabilization supported by the US?

Richard Branson versus Roger Waters [Pink Floyd]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47271182
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
February 20th, 2019 at 3:22:43 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: petroglyph
With the invasion of Venezuela scheduled to start Saturday, there might be new hoards of Venezuelan immigrants, escaping the destabilization supported by the US?


Remember Trump's ban on travel from Muslim countries? Venezuela & North Korea were included in the Muslim ban.
February 20th, 2019 at 3:37:00 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: JimRockford
We're taking another lap around this track? We know that Democrats are for open borders because they are against more border fence and fences are effective. We know that fences are effective because democrats are against them and didn't I just prove they are for open borders?


Dems are against border fence
Dems are calling to get rid of ICE
Dems are for drivers licenses for illegal aliens
Dems are for free college for illegal aliens
Dems are for no new beds in ICE detention
Dems are for sanctuary cities and states

How many more ways can we show Democrats are for open borders?
The President is a fink.
February 20th, 2019 at 3:42:53 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: petroglyph

Richard Branson versus Roger Waters [Pink Floyd]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47271182


Branson has a kooky idea and Waters replied with common sense logic
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"