GOP Convention

July 22nd, 2016 at 6:04:06 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: AZDuffman
What is weird about being manly?


Talking about John Miller? Whats manly about pretending to be another person and then lying about it
Seems pretty wimpy to me
Just man up and be honest about it
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:08:37 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: ams288
Just because he has a pretty mail-order bride and talks tough does not make him manly.
It is proven that if an American man wants to be happy in marriage he as a 16 times better chance getting a bride from one of the slav country's. Can't blame anyone for wanting to marry foreign, win win.

And a five times better chance marrying Asian.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:09:55 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
Trump is self-made. He build a real estate empire and his personal brand is huge. How many other developers have a similar one-word brand or near his name recognition? I realize the fans of "you didn't build that" do not understand the concept of self-made. And on the other side the candidate will be made by being someone's wife, yet somehow say that is qualification.


Donald Trump certainly made a great deal of money from what he was given. IN contrast, his older brother, Fred, died of complications from alcoholism at the age of 43.

The concept of self-made is certainly not definitive. I think that American family success is more appropriate a moniker, as DJT's grandfather built a small fortune, his father built a bigger one, and DJT built a massive fortune. Self-made is more appropriate for someone who didn't have wealthy parents, let alone wealthy grandparents.

July 22nd, 2016 at 6:23:43 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
Self-made is more appropriate for someone who didn't have wealthy parents, let alone wealthy grandparents.


Self made is indeed appropriate if you
take what you're given increase it
50 fold all on your own. Trump would
have been a success if he'd started from
nothing, his kind always are.

It's so odd. He did hugely well with building
a business. He entered politics a year
ago and has done hugely well with that so far.
Yet these are somehow strikes against the
man. I don't get it, Trump and his parents
and grandparents used to be what this
country was all about. When did that change.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:35:11 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
Self made is indeed appropriate if you
take what you're given increase it
50 fold all on your own. .


Nope, it's called being successful.

Growing up in privilege. is what Trump did.
1. White 2. Male 3. Education 4. Wealth of family, all provided, and if you want to add one more he was tall and better than average looking.

In fact the American dream lures people because self-made is none of that. You can come to America with none of those advantages and go far if you work hard.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:39:49 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Nope, it's called being successful.

Growing up in privilege. is what Trump did.
1. White 2. Male 3. Education 4. Wealth of family, all provided, and if you want to add one more he was tall and better than average looking.

In fact the American dream lures people because self-made is none of that. You can come to America with none of those advantages and go far if you work hard.


Then why do you claim it is such a privilege?
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July 22nd, 2016 at 6:47:50 PM permalink
zippyboy
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Quote: reno
Refusing to endorse is a big gamble on Cruz's part. If Trump loses in a landslide, Cruz will be well positioned for 2020.

Has there ever been a case of a candidate running every four years and failing, then being elected after 12-16 years? I don't think so. He wins the first time he or he's forever a loser. Cruz will be a loser in 2020, and 2024.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:56:44 PM permalink
zippyboy
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Trump spent a lot of time making promises he has no hope of fulfilling.

"I'm gonna fix the TSA! When I'm elected, you'll never stand in lines at the airport!" clap clap clap

"Too many of our young people are leaving college deep in debt and not getting jobs. I'm gonna fix that!" clap clap clap

"If your country has a terrorist element, you're not welcome here....ever!"

"I'm gonna bring jobs back to American workers. F*ck China!"

"I love the LGBTQ community! You're my favorite!" forgetting the republicans MADE all those laws discriminating against those folks in the first place. (what does Q stand for anyway?)

I can't even remember the rest. Lots of tasty sound bites, but good luck getting all your plans through Congress.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:57:20 PM permalink
rxwine
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It's more interesting to ask what standard advantage Trump didn't have when he started.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:58:36 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: zippyboy
Has there ever been a case of a candidate running every four years and failing, then being elected after 12-16 years? I don't think so. He wins the first time he or he's forever a loser. Cruz will be a loser in 2020, and 2024.


I saw something I forget where that you have to run while you are that rising star or else. Like within 10 years after you become a governor. I always thought Tom Ridge should have made a run, but he had his fill of politics. Perfect rising career in the 1990s but if he tried now nobody would know who he was.

Of course there are exceptions, Reagan and Nixon to name two. But mostly you come close and lose and that seems to be that. Dole, Edwards, Romney, Gore, McCain, probably missing several more. There is always talk of "political exercise" and really running for 4 years later. Reagan and Nixon again are the only real exceptions of our time. Who else has won after losing big the previous cycle or two?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength