Trump vs Hillary 2016

Quote: kenarman

Trump has promised to run the country like a business. In a business the Chairman (and board) set the destination for the company and the CEO plots the road to get their. I wonder if Trump will become the Chairman and leave Pence in effect the CEO. It would be a new twist but could create an effective administration.

And in a business, the underlings don't have any say in how the company is run and all the power is concentrated in the hands of a very few people. The underlings can be fired on a whim and are dependent for their livelihood on pleasing the boss. Yep, I must say, that's a perfect analogy for how Trump would like to run the country!

It's a fantasy that a Trump administration could be effective at anything, including actually carrying out Trump's plan to obliterate democracy. He's far too lazy and stupid to work that hard. The fractures in the Party will start appearing well before he even takes office. The Republicans don't have the cohesion to carry out their evil agenda.

If Trump does run the country like a business, that business will be Enron.

Quote: stinkingliberal

So the myth of Trump as a savvy whizbang businessman .

Myth? It's hard to fathom the world
Hillary supporters live in, it's certainly
not the real world where the rest of us live.
I hear his hit TV show was a myth also,
just like his business acumen. Are you for
real?

Trump is going to leave all his couple hundred companies to his kids and promise not to discuss it with them.

So, Trump gets early intel of an unstable situation in BananaRebublica island where he's got a business and he's not gonna say nuttin' in advance to his kids?

Okay, even if he doesn't tell them anything, the whole situation is stupid, because if his kids do anything even by coincidence at the right time it will look really bad. The Democrats and reporters will be all over it, as well they should.

Greetings!

As everyone knows, I don't post over here all that often, so I decided to share a lengthy post (that I hope you guys will consider humorous) that I posted to a similar thread on WoV for those of you who don't follow that site:

My Fellow Americans:

I know that this has been a long, excruciating and hard-fought process not just for our two major party nominees, but for all the voters and posters to this particular thread. However, the time has come for us to come together as a nation and to join as one unstoppable and immutable force to guide our country in the right direction.

This monumental task that we have before us can only be accomplished with togetherness and solidarity in the face of the many adversities we are assured to face. However, I believe that President-Elect Trump can lead us in this regard by example, by ensuring that all of his vanquished foes are taken care of with various Secretarial and Cabinet positions.

I am not referring to Hillary Rodham Clinton, rather, to his foes who he vanquished throughout the Republican Primary contest. Therefore, I have devised the following suggestions for positions for these valiant warriors that will give them, as well as all who supported them by proxy, the opportunity to take part in the process of Making America Great Again:

Chris Christie-Chief of Taste Testing

Throughout this entire Presidential Election process, it is undeniable that President-Elect Trump was divisive and perhaps, some would say belligerent, insulting and demeaning, at times. While attempted murder via foodstuffs has not been used against a sitting President that we have heard of, in recent memory, we cannot rule out the possibility that someone may try to take him out that way. It is for that reason that Chris Christie should be the Chief of Taste Testing because:

1.) He will LOVE his job.

AND

2.) He is, perhaps, one of the most expendable human beings walking the Earth.

The only downside is the possibility that President-Elect Trump may miss the occasional meal, if it is delicious and extremely well-prepared, because Chief Christie may feel the need to, 'Test,' all of it.

Rick Santorum-Secretary of Wrongness

One might ask: Why would you want a Secretary who is wrong about everything? Let me attempt to explain by way of example:

Imagine that you are a student taking a multiple choice test, in which four potential answers are paired with each individual question: If you had someone beside you who unfailingly selected one of the wrong answers, then even on a blind guess, the probability of guessing right improves from 25% to 33.3% now that an answer that is guaranteed to be wrong has been eliminated. However, let's consider the possibility that you could ask the person who is always wrong for his second choice, knowing that will be wrong, the question at hand is down to 50/50.

Having Rick Santorum around will undoubtedly be the greatest decision Donald Trump could ever make. By having Rick Santorum select from a list of options, by order of his preference, until there is only one option that he has not selected guarantees that you will have the right answer because Rick Santorum is ALWAYS wrong. About everything. The only way President-Elect Trump will fail to arrive at the right answer is if the best option was never among the list of options presented to him, and even then, he shall end up with the least-worst option of those offered to him.

Rick Santorum, we are counting on you, Mr. Secretary, to be wrong...and borderline insane (but a very nice guy)...in order to do your part in Making America Great Again.

Carly Fiorina-Secretary of Making S*** Up

It is almost beyond question that Donald Trump told multiple fabrications throughout the course of his candidacy, in fact, he has as much as admitted that not everything he has ever said has been true. At a minimum, he has directly contradicted himself in the past, which means that either one statement or the other must have been a lie.

There is a difference, however, between lying and making s*** up, and even though Trump has also demonstrated a non unimpressive ability to do the latter, the President of the United States, while one man, has to do a job that takes several people helping him. Carly Fiorina fabricates non-existent video evidence of things that did not happen out of thin air, and then stands firm on the fabrications when called out on them, just like Trump...so this is more of a complimentary position. Trump also said that Fiorina has a, 'Beautiful face,' and we know what he likes to do when he sees beautiful women, can't help himself, so if the two of them ever get bored...

Calm down, Bill did it too. I wouldn't say that monogamy is the exception, but in this day and age, I think we can all admit that many people don't treat it as a rule set in stone.

Jim Gilmore & Mike Huckabee-Joint Secretaries of Who The Hell is That?

President-Elect Trump has been an important man for some time now, and several people have also argued that he does not care about anyone except for himself. While that may or may not be true, let's assume for a second that he is a narcissist, just for the sake of argument:

Narcissists only care about people who can either glorify them or people from whom they can get something that they want. Other people are unimportant to the narcissist. However, as President, Trump will occasionally have to deal with people who will not like him, and furthermore, do not have anything that he wants. While Trump may remember a few of the most important of these people by name, it is quite possible that he won't remember the unimportant ones who have enjoyed nothing close to his level of success.

That is where Jim Gilmore and Mike Huckabee come in, those two were just important enough to be semi-nationally relevant, but really, most people don't know who the Hell they are. As the Joint Secretaries of Who The Hell Is That?, it will be their job to remember the names, positions and relevance (if any) of foreign leaders and dignitaries of countries who do not worship at our feet and have nothing that we want. It takes irrelevance to know irrelevance, so these guys can step in and make the proper introductions using the name of the foreign leader or dignitary in question before Trump has the opportunity to call the guy the wrong thing.

Ted Cruz-Chief of Being Hated

It can be difficult to be a President when you have contributed to one of the elections that polarized and divided the country more than perhaps any other. Trump is going to have to find some way of reaching out to the political left so that the country can continue to gloriously prosper, but that's not something that can happen right away.

It is for that reason that we need Ted Cruz to step up for his country and become the Chief of Being Hated. As the Chief of Being Hated, he will serve as a reminder to the country of what we theoretically could have had instead of Trump. The majority of the population, Liberals included, will fall to their knees and thank God to have Trump as the POTUS as compared to the guy that looks like he is having an especially troublesome bowel movement...when he's smiling.

Take heart in the fact that it could be worse, America. And, thank you, Chief Cruz, thank you.

Rand Paul-Chief of Bad Hair

This is pretty self-explanatory, Trump takes a ton of flak for that dead weasel he likes to wear around on his head, Chief Paul will take some of the heat off.

Marco Rubio-Secretary of Broken Promises

Whilst on the campaign trail, President-Elect Trump made quite a few campaign promises that, I suspect, he might not be able to keep to the letter. That is definitely a difficult proposition for any first year President to be in, but with Secretary Rubio on this job to speak for Trump when it comes time to break a promise, nobody can directly accuse President-Elect Trump of actually breaking a promise he made during his actual Presidency.

Win or lose, said Marco Rubio, he would not run for reelection with respect to his Florida Senate seat. He lost in the Republican Primary, he ran for reelection for his Senate seat. Both the ability and willingness to directly break a promise is clear when it comes to, 'Little Marco.'

Anytime Trump needs to get a message out there that he knows will result in a broken promise, he can call upon Secretary Rubio to step up and lie about what he is going to do again. Just make sure the guy has a bottle of water close to him, all of that promise-breaking gets one parched.

John Kasich-Secretary of Undue Credit

In order to be a successful politician, once having held office, it is important to recognize and exploit every available opportunity to take credit for something that you had nothing to do with. As Trump has already pointed out on the campaign trail, Kasich is just tops at accomplishing this feat.

To hear Kasich tell it, single-handed, he swooped in like a modern day Jesus Christ and turned the proverbial five loaves of bread and two fish into enough food to feed five thousand men. What really happened is that it was discovered that Ohio has a plethora of natural gas reserves that could be accessed via hydraulic fracking, money came pouring into the state in an effort to extract said natural gas. Kasich did not discover the natural gas, and as far as I can tell, he did not physically put the gas there...but it is somehow his doing.

If there is anyone adept at taking credit for things he did not do, John Kasich is that guy, so even if Trump fails to Make America Great Again, Secretary Kasich will at least be there to make it sound like he did.

Jeb Bush-Chief of Getting His Ass Kicked

Being President is a difficult job in which important decisions that affect the balance of the nation today, and the prospects for our great nation tomorrow, need to be made on a daily basis. The President of the United States is almost always, by definition, in a position of wondering whether he has made a major blunder, perhaps said the wrong thing to a foreign leader. One misplaced word, theoretically, could be enough to start a war.

It is for that reason that the President must remain as confident as possible at all times. Jeb Bush was a once-powerful and nationally relevant Governor of Florida, his brother and dad were also Presidents and Governor Jeb was all set to be the Republican Nominee, and perhaps presumably, the winner of the 2016 Election.

Donald Trump changed all that coming in and whipping Jeb's ass so thoroughly and completely that the Governor was reduced to requesting that people clap at his rallies. Even house bands at mostly empty dive bars do not ask the audience to clap.

Whether it is being utterly dismantled in a verbal sparring, getting demolished in Canasta, or perhaps, Trump: The Game, it is Governor Bush's duty as Chief of Getting His Ass Kicked to constantly lose at everything to President-Elect Trump in order to boost his ego and remind him of what he has the power to do to a once-respected man.

Ben Carson-Chief of Sleepytime

The fact of the matter is that being President is an extremely difficult job that requires a man to remain awake for countless hours while making difficult decisions at the drop of a hat. The job is taxing physically, as well as mentally, which can be seen by how rapidly Presidents appear to age during their time in office. Even with that, though, it is important to make sure to get some much-needed sleep from time-to-time.

When President-Elect Trump is looking just a little too haggard from his Presidential duties, and you'll know because the orange will be gone from his face which will be rendered as ghost white as the underneath of his eyes, the guy simply needs to have a snooze. That is where Chief of Sleepytime Carson comes in, at that point, Chief Carson must discuss fiscal policy, his appearance on The View, his opinions on gardening...anything, really...until President-Elect Trump slowly drifts off into a peaceful slumber. It won't take long. From that point, Carson can just go on and on in his sleepy sing-song murmur (it's just really effective white noise, really) until he himself drifts off to sleep.

In fact, just thinking about that whisper-like rhythmic cadence....HKFYUKKTYTLUYUBBKYUYCKYRXC,....746254nrlnrkg......

Oh, sorry, fine job, Chief Carson!

Conclusion

All of these vanquished, once-proud contenders, can be given positions that make them feel useful, because they will be useful. Especially Ben Carson, I made a CD that I play when it is time to go to bed that is just eight solid hours of him talking, and I promise, it really works.

Or, maybe I should ask Rubio to make that promise for me just in case you decide to try it for yourselves.

Quote: rxwine

Trump is going to leave all his couple hundred companies to his kids and promise not to discuss it with them.

So, Trump gets early intel of an unstable situation in BananaRebublica island where he's got a business and he's not gonna say nuttin' in advance to his kids?

Okay, even if he doesn't tell them anything, the whole situation is stupid, because if his kids do anything even by coincidence at the right time it will look really bad. The Democrats and reporters will be all over it, as well they should.

But Trump doing, or having done, stuff that looks really bad hasn't affected him in the least. Compare the effects of his being revealed as someone who casually commits sexual assault (and brags about it) to the announcement by Comey that...uh..."well, never mind, everybody." The press should have been all over him a year ago. But he was amusing, I guess, which Hillary wasn't.

I certainly hope he's taught his kids in "The Art of the Fraud." He's certainly been able to sell his brand. Heck, he's managed to make AzDuffman,EvenBob, and millions like them, believe that he's a successful businessman, bankruptcies, fraud, and all!

The Trump kiddies are just impatiently waiting for Daddy to croak so that they can wallow in his billions. They have no more interest in the hard work of actually running a company (as opposed to running it into the ground) than he does.

Quote: stinkingliberal

Actually, if Trump had invested the amount he started with in a bank CD, he'd have almost twice as much money as he does now--assuming that he's even solvent. I wonder if he'll ever release his tax returns.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

That claim is examined in the above article.

Quote: Pacomartin

That claim is examined in the above article.

Seems like they're saying that there are too many undetermined variables, like exactly when he got the money and when he invested it, to say for sure one way or the other--which makes it surprising that they rate the claim "false"--the text of the article implies that it's really "who knows." Though they did say that the numbers were "in the ballpark."

Also, the premise is that Trump is not lying about his net worth. How can we know that Trump isn't lying--about ANYTHING? For all we know, he's actually insolvent. He wants us to believe that he's this genius investor, but he continues to hide his tax returns.

In any event, how can anyone whose businesses have gone bankrupt literally dozens of times be considered a good or a successful businessman? If he runs the US that way, I guess he's going to sell all our assets and then default on all the country's debts. That's the "Crooked Donald" way.

Quote: stinkingliberal

Seems like they're saying that there are too many undetermined variables, like exactly when he got the money and when he invested it, to say for sure one way or the other--which makes it surprising that they rate the claim "false"--the text of the article implies that it's really "who knows." Though they did say that the numbers were "in the ballpark."

Forbes did a study about this claim of passive investment. They looked at the obvious statement that once you made the Forbes 400 the rate of return was relatively modest to stay on it (often less than savings account rates). So the question becomes why do so many people fall off?

They concluded that increase and decrease in great wealth should not be held to the same standard as indexed investments. It was often inherently volatile.

I overheard a someone giving a gospel conversion message to someone else this morning. I paraphrase one part: They (the pollsters) even with all their math and knowledge and data, they got it wrong. The Bible has 6000 predictions and God gets it right

I couldn't tell if he said anything about Donald Trump being chosen by God. Is 6000 the right number? Maybe I heard that wrong.

Of course polling pretty much relies on self-reporting. Big weak link, but everything else could be done right as far as method. If many people treat pollsters as the "lamestream" media they might be f***ing with it on purpose. But who knows.