Trump vs Hillary 2016

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February 4th, 2017 at 12:57:43 AM permalink
rxwine
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I can't think of any program of that complexity even in the private sector which could be rolled out virtually without any problems.

In fact, I don' even think you can anticipate every problem until you actually implement it.

Of course an attempt to honestly sell it as something imperfect would have just given ammunition to its detractors. So that may have been a necessity.
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February 4th, 2017 at 10:04:34 AM permalink
buzzardknot
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and Obama had 81 months to address those imperfections.
February 4th, 2017 at 11:36:19 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: buzzardknot
and Obama had 81 months to address those imperfections.


How so? I don't think the Republicans sent even once a reform bill, just various repeals that they counted on having vetoed.
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:17:33 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
How so? I don't think the Republicans sent even once a reform bill, just various repeals that they counted on having vetoed.


Well, he could have actually asked them to reform the bill. Of course from day one he told the GOP to sit down and shut up so doubtful that would have helped. A more likely way would have been in how it was implemented. But that would have taken away from his golf time, so also doubtful.
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:27:57 PM permalink
Dalex64
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In fact he did propose changes.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56bcd8d6e4b0c3c550506e19

But as we can see, the ball is in their court now, and they've got nothing. They are scared of taking ownership of any changes.
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February 4th, 2017 at 1:58:42 PM permalink
buzzardknot
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Trump ain't scared of nuttin, nohow, no way.
February 4th, 2017 at 5:17:35 PM permalink
stinkingliberal
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Quote: RonC
Like most, if not all, media outlets these days Heritage does have a point of view and is not simply reporting the story. You didn't attack the story, you attacked the source...were the statements in the story true or not? Does Obamacare fulfill the promises that were made at the time it was passed?

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No, but many of those failings were due to Republican obstructionism, both the flaws that were written into the law originally and those that emerged during its implementation. It's well understood that Obama wanted the law to go further than it did--as did a strong majority (70%) of the American people (but who cares what THEY want).
I attribute the rabid Republican opposition to Obamacare to racism simply because there is no rational reason for them to have opposed it or to be rupturing themselves trying to destroy it. Even Trumpers have benefitted from the ACA!
Besides, who cares whether every promise was fulfilled? The only thing that matters now is whether the program provides tangible benefits. Clearly, 20 million people having access to health care is an intrinsic good--even if corporate profits dropped a little, and even if most of those 20 million were shiftless darkies and Messkins.
February 4th, 2017 at 7:10:56 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: buzzardknot
Trump ain't scared of nuttin, nohow, no way.


Based on Donald's constant public fellating of Putin, I'd say he's scared of something....

Most likely that pee tape getting released!
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:55:59 PM permalink
buzzardknot
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Now I wonder what Mao Zedung had on Nixon.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:11:24 PM permalink
ams288
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And don't forget about Donald's fear of stairs... (google it)
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