Two Gods or One

Quote: Evenbob

Gotta call it something. Science can't make
it or reproduce it. Science can't build
something and bring it to life if the life
force isn't already in it. Frakensteins
monster won't come alive with a bolt of
lightening.

Interesting point, life is very mysterious, miraculous even wouldn't you say?

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Whatever animates my dog also animates
me and every other living thing. Calling
it a life force is as good a name as any.

Jesus called it a soul. There are animal souls and then very different human souls.

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The only way we stay alive is by consuming
things that had the life force in them. Plants
and animals. Why is that.

Wait are you talking about consuming the "life force" of things to stay alive and become strong?!? That sounds like a powerful concept, what if God gave to us His "life force" as food to keep us spiritually alive? That would be pretty awesome wouldn't it.

Quote: FrGamble

But they don't wonder about the meaning of life or if dog spelled backwards is the creator of all things.

Even my dog knows that's not how you spell C-A-T :)

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Yes we can wonder and be in awe. We desire to question, to learn, to study, to excel, to be more than we think possible. It is almost as if yearn for something more than this world can give us. No animal does this, we are human beings and we are very different.

That has nothing to do with my comment.

Most people I've met wonder who's sleeping with whom, who's divorcing whom, and what someone named Kim does while out of the public eye.

Quote: Nareed

Most people I've met wonder who's sleeping with whom, who's divorcing whom, and what someone named Kim does while out of the public eye.

So very sad and so very true! Nothing is worse than misusing our God given gifts to become the base creatures we were made not to be.

Quote: FrGamble

Interesting point, life is very mysterious, miraculous even wouldn't you say?

No more mysterious or miraculous
than a TV set. Everything is a mystery till
it isn't anymore. There are no miracles.

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There are animal souls and then very different human souls.

There you go with your prejudiced
and bigoted attitude again. You have
no proof that animals are not equal
to us in the scheme of things, it just
fits your god agenda to say they're
inferior.

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Wait are you talking about consuming the "life force" of things to stay alive and become strong?!? That sounds like a powerful concept, what if God gave to us His "life force" as food to keep us spiritually alive?

Perfect example of 'god is always the
last answer for everything, never the
first'. You jump over every other possible
explanation and go right to the god
conclusion every time. You can't even
show the slightest bit of evidence for
a god, yet you give him credit for
everything. That's just nuts.

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Just because there are things still unexplained does not mean we jump to mysterious conclusions.

Computer data and so-called "souls" both weigh nothing.* Is that mysterious? A "dead" computer doesn't weigh less. Neither does a dead body.


Both are generally greatly different than their "dead" counterparts.



*(there are some quibbles online about both of these, but I found nothing conclusive anywhere)

Quote: rxwine

Just because there are things still unexplained does not mean we jump to mysterious conclusions.

Oh, but that has been the Church's MO
for the last 1000 years or more. Anything
that can't be explained is gods work, he's
behind the so called miracle. It's what
made the Church so much fun during
the centuries of Inquisitions.

Quote: Evenbob

Oh, but that has been the Church's MO
for the last 1000 years or more. Anything
that can't be explained is gods work, he's
behind the so called miracle.

He is more clearly behind the things we can explain.

Quote: FrGamble

He is more clearly behind the things we can explain.

There is no god, quit saying there is.
Until you can show evidence, god
is just a useful myth, treat it as such.

Quote: Evenbob

There is no god, quit saying there is.
Until you can show evidence,

I think I will use the existence of a "life force" as another piece of evidence for the existence of God. By the way there is a God, quit saying there is not until you can show evidence.