Where is FrG?

My statistic is about people who are currently alive

I will assume that the percentage of people who have never heard of Jesus has only gone down, from 100% to 32%

Bob's claim is that 90% of everyone who has ever lived has never heard of Jesus. He provided no evidence to back that assertion, and I didn't see anything to support or refute that.

If we assume that the percentage of people who have never heard of Jesus has only gone down, then the total number of people who have never heard of Jesus over the past 2000 years must be higher than 32%

Quote: FrGamble

I don't even remember why you took us down this tangent.

You DON'T?? I only make the point
in every other post why I did it.

The POINT is, if there was a god, his
religion is the worst possible way
to reach the people it was intended
for. In the last 2000 years he missed
80% of the people who lived on the
planet.

That's called abysmal failure. If Xtionity
is soooooo important, if it involves your
mortal soul and is a life and death
situation, your god picked the worst
message delivery system imaginable.
He missed the vast majority of the planets
inhabitants and continues to miss hundreds
of millions today.

So what does this say about the validity
of your religion. It puts it directly into
the toilet as far as any god being involved.
The only way for this to have worked is
to have a Jesus born into every culture
on earth, constantly, over and over, so
every person had a chance. If a god wanted
his message to reach everyone, if it's as
deadly important as you say it is, he would
have found a way to deliver it.

But of course it isn't important at all, it's
a fiction dreamed up by men. The best
part of it is, you cannot see that. To me
it's clear as a bell, to you all you see is
what you've been taught. You'll shrug all
this off and have some silly excuse as to
why the message missed the vast majority
of the population. Reason and logic cannot
enter into your thinking, if it could you would
find another profession.

I see you have revised your number to 80%, Bob.

To be fair, I have to ask if you have any evidence to back up that assertion, and now what further evidence you came across to revise it from your original assertion of 90%

Quote: Dalex64

I see you have revised your number to 80%, Bob.

The numbers are really unimportant,
pick one. 50% to 95%. The point
is, no real god would have concocted
such a poor message delivery system
for a life and death message they say
is as important as this one.

So the only logical conclusion, and
there really is only one, is that it's a
man made myth. A real god would have
had a foolproof plan so everyone
on earth would have heard the message
from the death of Jesus onward. And
there obviously was no such plan.
Word of mouth isn't a plan, it's no
better than random chance, which is
exactly how it worked out.

So far, the only evidence we have supports "at least 32%" so I pick that.

Quote: Dalex64

So far, the only evidence we have supports "at least 32%" so I pick that.

Just take the first 1500 years.
How many never heard of
Jesus, 95% of the world?
No real god would come up
with a shoddy plan like that.

Bob, do you think there is anyone else in the world that 68% of the population knows who they are? I don't know it seems kind of effective to me. Much more so than anything I know of.

Quote: FrGamble

Bob, do you think there is anyone else in the world that 68% of the population knows who they are? I don't know it seems kind of effective to me. Much more so than anything I know of.

In the last 10 years have more people first heard of Jesus, or Trump?

Quote: FrGamble

I don't know it seems kind of effective to me. .

Of course, that's what you get paid to
say. To somebody on the outside, it
looks like what it is. A slipshod word
of mouth haphazard method to spread
the word as slowly as possible. No god
would come up with such a crappy
plan, that leaves out the majority of
the people it was supposed to reach.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but this religion
is a joke. Jesus starts out with a message
that the kingdom of god is near, get
ready. It will happen any day, well within
your lifetime. He gets a group of ragtag
teen boys to follow him around, and
eventually gets put to death for being
a pest.

A myth grows around him, stories of
his exploits are invented, words he
never said are passed around, the
urban legends grow into a religion
as the centuries pass. A greed driven
church is formed that grows and grows
by confiscating the property of the
weak pagan religions.

And here we are today, being told we
have to take all this obvious nonsense
seriously. The whole concept of Jesus
is an insult to any rational, reasonable
person. It belongs in a book about all
the other ancient myths, right alongside
the guy pushing the boulder up the
hill forever.

But hey, some people are still buying
and you're still selling, as long as
there is a market you've got a job.
That's all that should matter to you.

How many people do suppose have heard of Buddha, Mohammed, Socrates, and Hitler?