Science and God

Quote: Nareed

I've embraced the truth about Jesus: he died over 2,000 years ago and has, as all dead people, remained dead ever since.

Deader than a door-nail is, I believe,
the proper way to phrase that. The
saying does not appear in the Bible,
but 'deader than a door-nail' is in
both Shakespeare and Dickens, and
aptly applies here as well.

Quote: Nareed

You theists think you can make an extraordinary claim and it's true, unless it can be disproved.

Tell me what language you need me to communicate to you that you are wrong about this. You cannot make an extraordinary claim such as "God exists" or "God does not exist" and claim it is true and only offer as evidence that it cannot be disproved. That doesn't make sense. You need to look into a mirror because only one of us is doing that and it is not me.

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I'm not going to endlessly repeat myself just so you can promote more nothingness as evidence. You'll have to do it all on your own.

And I'm not going to continue to have all the evidence I present ignored and never seriously dealt with. You are in straight up denial.

Quote: Evenbob

What it clearly does mean is the lack of
evidence points directly at there being
no god. For me, the complete lack of
evidence means I can take the stance
that god does not exist. Lack of evidence=
lack of god. Obviously.

No it does not. Think about this for a second. The complete lack of evidence, even if that was true, would precisely mean that you could not take any stance at all. Wasn't it you just the other day saying that all knowledge comes from the scientific method. What evidence could you observe and test that would lead you to such a strange idea that God did not exist? Lack of evidence = lack of evidence: nothing more, nothing less. You trying to make it evidence of something is your subjective opinion that does not logically follow.

Quote: FrGamble

Tell me what language you need me to communicate to you that you are wrong about this.

Do you speak Rational English?

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You cannot make an extraordinary claim such as "God exists" or "God does not exist" and claim it is true and only offer as evidence that it cannot be disproved.

Forget the last question. this more than answers it.

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And I'm not going to continue to have all the evidence I present ignored and never seriously dealt with.

I've dealt with it. I've told you why it's not relevant or valid. I've corrected dozens of misconceptions you have about physics, etc, etc. You're as receptive as a brick wall with a massive hearing problem.

Quote: Nareed

Forget the last question. this more than answers it.

Okay lets break this down. To make any claim at all much more an extraordinary one you need evidence. You cannot just claim a truth based on nothing. This is exactly what atheism does and what Christianity rejects. I hope you understand.

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I've dealt with it. I've told you why it's not relevant or valid. I've corrected dozens of misconceptions you have about physics, etc, etc. You're as receptive as a brick wall with a massive hearing problem.

If that is not the pot calling the kettle black!?!

Quote: FrGamble

You cannot just claim a truth based on nothing.

You claim god exists based on nothing. You have
yet to show any logical reason for gods existence.
I meal real logic, not faux Vatican logic. You have
plenty of that.

You claim God does not exist based on nothing. You have yet to show any logical reason for a denial of God's existence. You don't even have faux Vatican logic, you gots nothing.

Quote: FrGamble

I hope you understand.

You seem to have an unhealthy fixation in making me admit your exceedingly wrong logic as correct. Why is that?

Your claims are not backed up by evidence, ergo I refuse to believe them. Next you say "well, disprove them or Jehovah is real!" And you lack any intellectual empathy to see you react exactly as I do to claims made about other gods. Or do you maintain Tlaloc and Baal, to one true gods who required human sacrifices, are an early manifestation of your Jehovah?

Quote: FrGamble

You don't even have faux Vatican logic, you gots nothing.

You're starting to get it. There is nothing to 'gots'.
That's the freaking point!

I've known for awhile it's a thought based on nothing.