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Gigafactory
| November 16th, 2018 at 12:46:58 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18755 | As far as specs, there's all sorts of added features you get on high end models that you don't get on lower end. Whether you consider them useful or worth it is individual. Do I need an intermittent wiper which can adjust to rain so light it normally makes the slowest speed wiper squeak badly? No, but it's nice. Electric seats that adjust in so many ways, I was able to skip a hotel night and sleep 3 hours at a rest stop. Low tire pressure warnings which show up on your dash. Warning lights that show when in a car is passing you in the blind spot. And you've probably seen cars that can parallel park on their own. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| December 5th, 2018 at 6:08:29 AM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Volkswagon announced that its next generation of internal combustion vehicles will be its last as it is concentrating on electric vehiclhles and expects all internal combustion vehicles to falde away. |
| December 5th, 2018 at 8:04:53 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
Auto news I watch daily says nobody is planning anything new after the mid-2020s. My thought is too many MBAs running around the places reading too many predictions. GM/Ford are going all-in on "mobility" vs. selling cars. Revolutions rarely happen as planned. The President is a fink. |
| December 5th, 2018 at 2:20:00 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18755 |
I think one of the big problems with the new car business, is that if you innovate and nobody buys you can get hurt big, but if a competitor innovates and it sells well then you get caught flatfooted on sales for that year. You could get hurt either way if you guess wrong. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| December 5th, 2018 at 3:16:48 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
Innovation is tricky. The Prius while "innovative" makes zero engineering or financial sense, yet it sells. The Volt is a better system but is headed for the scrap heap. Lee Iacocca said that you cannot be too far ahead of the customer. Car companies get their pick of grads with the best grades. Usually those people are students who just give the "right" answers, not those who learn the streets. Auto execs seem to be reading that "millennials don't like cars" and are sold on subscriptions and ride-hailing as the future of the industry. I think they will learn the hard way that people want to go NOW and do not want to use a car someone else left a mess. The President is a fink. |
| December 5th, 2018 at 7:10:42 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The average cost rose of driving is 60.8 cents per mile, or $9,122 per year, based upon 15,000 miles of annual driving. I suspect that the only people who would spend less than $9000 per year on car shares are people who have learned to cycle or walk when most people would take a vehicle.
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| January 2nd, 2019 at 9:59:39 AM permalink | |
| reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 | Total Tesla deliveries, 2015: 50,580 vehicles Total Tesla deliveries, 2016: 76,230 vehicles Total Tesla deliveries, 2017: 103,737 vehicles Total Tesla deliveries, 2018: 245,240 vehicles Wall Street is disappointed by the 2018 numbers, so shares are down about 7% as I write this. |
| January 2nd, 2019 at 10:07:42 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
Just heard sales are down last part of 2018 and they are offering discounts. Have to wonder how they do when supply meets the initial demand surge. The President is a fink. |
| January 2nd, 2019 at 6:01:02 PM permalink | |
| reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
1st Quarter deliveries: 34,494 2nd Quarter deliveries: 53,339 3rd Quarter deliveries: 83,500 4th Quarter deliveries: 90,700 Yeah, I'm not sure why they're lowering their prices by $2,000. Their official explanation is that the federal tax credit for customers was slashed in half as of January 1st, from $7,500 to $3,750, and Tesla has to compete against other automakers who are still able to offer the full $7,500. That explanation might be true, or it might not. Deliveries of the Model 3 to Europe and China will begin in February 2019, so even if demand has plummeted in the U.S., demand is extremely strong overseas. Norway just set a new record: of the 147,929 vehicles sold in 2018, 46,092 of them (31%) were fully electric. But Norway only has 5.3 million residents, so in the grand scheme of things, they're not so important. In China, there were 140,000 electric cars registered in just one month (November 2018.) |
| January 3rd, 2019 at 2:39:41 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
I also heard they have yet to deliver one at the $35,000 base price. I saw a review on YouTube. Very weird looking inside. Everything is controlled by one screen, which looks like someone tacked it on in their garage. These new screens are a big pet peeve of mine. Some look integrated, the rest look awful. To even turn on the headlights you have to go to the right part of the screen. The car does not even have a regular AM/FM radio at this point! The screen is such that gadget freaks will love it but the rest of us will hate it. The President is a fink. |