What time zone is Jackpot Nevada in?

In other news, a newcomer to the Wiki page named Toohool changed the page back and didn't even have the decency to mention my map argument/source. So no more Mr. Nice Guy from me. I changed the entry to read as follows:

According to the state of Nevada, Jackpot is in the Mountain Time Zone [9] due to its economic ties with the Magic Valley region of southern Idaho. The federal government considers Jackpot in the Pacific time zone.

Since he deleted my source, I deleted his.

Quote: Wizard

Regarding the "why" I didn't put that part in Wikipedia, but wanted to show respect for the author (I think it was our own PacoMartin) and didn't erase it. However, it is blatantly obvious it is correct if you went there. Almost every license plate in town is from Idaho.

My sole entry (PacoMartin) was completely obliterated in 2 hours 17 minutes (so none of my words remain). But it forced ‎( Famartin) to look up the US Government Code of Federal Regulations to provide better justification.

Now you are fighting (Toohool) who is charging you with doing "original research" about the 10th amendment. The "original research" charge is wielded like a baseball bat by the Wikipedia editors if they don't accept what you are saying.

Quote: Wizard

and they don't care what the federal government thinks about it.

Why would the gov't care. It no
effect on anybody except the people
who live there.

Quote: Pacomartin

Now you are fighting (Toohool) who is charging you with doing "original research" about the 10th amendment. The "original research" charge is wielded like a baseball bat by the Wikipedia editors if they don't accept what you are saying.

He may have a point there, which is partially why I didn't bring up that point when I changed the entry back the last time.

My position is that the MTZ position deserves to be called more than just "unofficial." Every source I've seen internal to the state of Nevada back up the MTZ and I'm not convinced that the federal government has the constitutional right to override that.

Kind of interesting how two Martin's are involved in this on opposite sides.

Quote: Evenbob

Why would the gov't care. It no
effect on anybody except the people
who live there.

I'm still trying to figure out why I care. Any psychiatrists on the board?

Probably for the same reason why I care. It's called procrastination. This is far more interesting than the actual work that I need to do by 9:30am tomorrow morning.

You're running from what you really have to do. At least I am.

Quote: boymimbo

You're running from what you really have to do. At least I am.

You're probably right. The boat that is my web sites is slowly sinking and this is what I'm wasting my time on.

Quote: Wizard

Kind of interesting how to Martin's are involved in this on opposite sides.

Not just Martin's , but his username is FAMartin while my name is Frank A Martin. It even confused me.

Quote: Wizard

I'm still trying to figure out why I care. Any psychiatrists on the board?

It's nice to get a victory somewhere, even if the ship is floundering.
Also with wikipedia if you find a source, and you try to work on the wording, some guy just simply hits the undo button. It's like being pissed on. It's very annoying.

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I became obsessed with the seeming inability of the government to deal with Order of Magnitude (OOM) calculations. People and leadership in my old job push these ideas that don't pass a simple OOM calculation.

For instance, San Diego became obsessed with this idea of building an airport 100 miles away in the desert connected to the city by high speed maglev rail. My OOM calculation says that a 100 mil high speed maglev train would be one of the largest capital infrastructure projects in the nation, and instead of connecting two cities (like San Diego and Los Angeles) all it would do is take people to the airport. Since half the people who go to the airport are trying to make a 60 minute flight to Phoenix, Las Vegas, San Francisco , Sacramento, San Jose, or Oakland they would never want to pay to park their car and take a 100 miles maglev train just to get to the airport.

The answer was always that Shanghai had a maglev train that went to the airport. So executives from the City of San Diego would fly to Shanghai to see the airport train. Once again my OOM says why would you need to read a top speed of (268 mph) on a 19 mile trip to the airport? I mean given the amount of time you invest in flying to some destination, what difference does it really make if you get to the airport in 8 minutes or 20 minutes?

I thought it would help if I could change the Wikipedia entry on the Shanghai Maglev Train. But every time it would get reverted back as speculative or original research. FINALLY I found a quote from a Siemen's executive basically admitting that the train made no financial sense, but was a massively subsidized "sales tool" to try and get the real business. Siemen's never got to build a real train in China, as the government decided to build all the trains with Chinese companies.

But because I found a quote (Hans Dieter), that wikipedia entry has stayed in there for at least six years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Maglev_Train#Background

> I'd welcome input from any constitutional lawyers on the forum regarding this issue.
Federal government can establish that boxers will be weighed in pounds and ounces and can define what a pound and an ounce is but can not declare that any particular boxer has a certain weight or is in a certain class of weights. Federal government can determine definitions of hours and minutes and can establish, if it wanted to, time zones but it is clear that adjustments to time zone boundaries is by state or local option since the Federal government clearly does not intend to take exclusive jurisdiction on the issue thus making boundaries arbitrary and immutable.

>Insert here Fleastiff's reference to attractive woman in Macau.
>>Who would you be referring to?
You were photographed "passing pins" to her partner.

>Finally, I edited the Jackpot entry again, to mention Flea's argument about Article 1.8.5.
T'weren't my argument, but ...

Unicycle juggling porn...(joke). Just for a mental break.

Quote: Pacomartin

The answer was always that Shanghai had a maglev train that went to the airport. So executives from the City of San Diego would fly to Shanghai to see the airport train. Once again my OOM says why would you need to read a top speed of (268 mph) on a 19 mile trip to the airport? I mean given the amount of time you invest in flying to some destination, what difference does it really make if you get to the airport in 8 minutes or 20 minutes?

I've been on that Maglev train. Some big problems with it are that it is expensive, runs infrequently, and it drops off far from central Shanghai, out in the suburbs on the Pudong side of the river. I think for most travelers it would be cheaper and faster to just take a cab.

However, when I was there in 2009 for the eclipse I was told that they were planning to extend it to Hangzhou. Do you know if that happened?

To get to your main point, I totally agree that one has to look at the opportunity costs of taking public transit. This should especially be considered with the Las Vegas to Victorville bullet train. I think as long as somebody from LA beats the traffic there to make it to Victorville he may as well drive the extra 3.5 hours to Vegas.

We can split off this topic if it goes much further.

Getting back to Jackpot, Famartin and I are now just going back and forth undoing each others changes. I do indeed feel that my contributions are just getting pissed on. To that, I will keep pissing right back. I welcome anyone on my side to undo his changes for me when the ball is in my court.