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April 13th, 2023 at 7:34:21 AM permalink
Mission146
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If you want to foster resentment, which can lead to violence, then trampling all over Free Speech is surely a good way to do it.

Have you guys learned nothing from watching the effects of what Christians try to do?

Let them have hate speech. Better yet, they wear it on a T-Shirt that way I know to avoid them without even talking to them first.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
April 13th, 2023 at 8:14:01 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Mission146
If you want to foster resentment, which can lead to violence, then trampling all over Free Speech is surely a good way to do it.

Have you guys learned nothing from watching the effects of what Christians try to do?

Let them have hate speech. Better yet, they wear it on a T-Shirt that way I know to avoid them without even talking to them first.


What I would insist on is speech from foreign countries has to be ID'd. If you live in the US you may have a completely different opinion than someone else in the US but at least you both have a stake in matter if it's from the USA.
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April 13th, 2023 at 8:19:26 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Mission146
If you want to foster resentment, which can lead to violence, then trampling all over Free Speech is surely a good way to do it.

Have you guys learned nothing from watching the effects of what Christians try to do?

Let them have hate speech. Better yet, they wear it on a T-Shirt that way I know to avoid them without even talking to them first.


What is this in response to? Who is trampling all over free speech?
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April 13th, 2023 at 8:44:13 AM permalink
Mission146
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What is this in response to? Who is trampling all over free speech?


Nobody in particular. It was the general, 'You.' I'm simply suggesting that I wouldn't want to see a broader interpretation of, 'Hate Speech,' 'Incitement,' or any laws outlawing those things for any reason as it would not have the desired effect.

In short, I think it's better that some feelings be hurt than people get filled with bullets.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
April 13th, 2023 at 8:46:13 AM permalink
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What I would insist on is speech from foreign countries has to be ID'd. If you live in the US you may have a completely different opinion than someone else in the US but at least you both have a stake in matter if it's from the USA.


I don't see what purpose that would serve.

The problem is the world economy, which even includes digital mediums. Otherwise, I'd just say to geoblock everything that is not coming from within the U.S. Our citizens have no real need to talk with people from other countries. (That was in jest, btw.)
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
April 13th, 2023 at 9:07:22 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Mission146
I don't see what purpose that would serve.

The problem is the world economy, which even includes digital mediums. Otherwise, I'd just say to geoblock everything that is not coming from within the U.S. Our citizens have no real need to talk with people from other countries. (That was in jest, btw.)


For example, if I spoke fluent French I might go on a French site and try to rile up one side or another pretending I'm a concerned French Citizen. There are currently riots going on in Paris. I have no dog in that hunt. er, or French poodle as the case may be.

I don't like that here either.
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April 13th, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM permalink
Mission146
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For example, if I spoke fluent French I might go on a French site and try to rile up one side or another pretending I'm a concerned French Citizen. There are currently riots going on in Paris. I have no dog in that hunt. er, or French poodle as the case may be.

I don't like that here either.


I mean, yeah, but it's a one world economy...for the most part. It's a one world digital medium. Countries of origin are easily hidden, etc...
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
April 15th, 2023 at 1:17:33 PM permalink
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Prediction:

Trump won't be convicted of anything in the various trials that he may face.

Even if the evidence against him is very strong.

Why?

There will be at least one juror in every trial who loves Trump and will hang the jury.
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April 15th, 2023 at 1:42:38 PM permalink
rxwine
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Prediction:

Trump won't be convicted of anything in the various trials that he may face.

Even if the evidence against him is very strong.

Why?

There will be at least one juror in every trial who loves Trump and will hang the jury.


That’s possible, but if there are multiple charges involved there is probably more of a chance they won’t hang on all of them.
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April 15th, 2023 at 2:13:00 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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All these charges against Trump are psychological operations.

He's squeaky clean (for a human).



Here's one way to tell:

Read the info about the Ukraine versus Russia war leak.

Compare MSM, the admin, and Congress and the leaked info.




In a nutshell, they're trying to convince readers Trump has a clogged conscience.

The reality is, the MSM, the admin, and Congress are corrupt.


So don't form an opinion based upon MSM news wires (including Fox), the admin, and Congress (including reds).

They're all controlled by the same bankers.


Have to go outside those three organizations.