Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Quote: rxwine

Quote: odiousgambit

this is it exactly, very legit ... it's an effect of El Nino, and climate change is a factor

it's like the trans woman winning the beauty contest ... is the fix in? [is the data manipulated to make it more dramatic?]

To be fair, climate change rejection has moved the goal posts. We're up to it's not happening fast enough to concern us. As opposed to not happening at all.

I could go back to that if you like LOL

I hold it possible that we are only seeing the continued trend of warming since the last ice age, with recent warming excess unexplained, same as the 1930s can not be explained to anyone's satisfaction

It's possible we are headed for an ice age. We do live in an era of repeated ice ages, this is the only undisputed fact.

Well, that CO2, methane, and water vapor are greenhouse gases is undisputed. Concern is not unwarranted. Panic is unwarranted, and has already caused true disaster.

"possible" ... These things are a matter of percentage chance. So I haven't gone back to 'not happening at all' but I'm not paying much attention to journalists either

Quote: AZDuffman

Oil company propaganda? Where? I have seen none other than that they try to get people to buy their brand of gasoline.

No need to work on my research. I have many times here explained why I am not one of the sheep just believing because I was told to do so. I have also pointed out how by adding "climate change" to a non-news news story the sheep believe in climate change all the more. I have pointed out how the high-priests of climate change do not change their energy-gulping ways but tell the sheep that said sheep need to do so.

Not sure what more you need. Keep being a sheep, those in power will shear you many times until they see more value in skinning you.

Exxon’s own scientists had repeatedly warned the company about the threat from burning fossil fuels as far back as the 1970s. But the oil companies begin a regular campaign of disinformation. I already posted links in this thread.

How many times is your lazy ass not going to do your own research?

Quote: rxwine

Exxon’s own scientists had repeatedly warned the company about the threat from burning fossil fuels as far back as the 1970s. But the oil companies begin a regular campaign of disinformation. I already posted links in this thread.

How many times is your lazy ass not going to do your own research?

Again, what campaign? I have seen zero as far as an organized campaign for people to think for themselves on global warming. There has been nothing but an organized campaign to push it as an agenda. Reality is if the big oil companies can make more money off it they will let people believe in it.

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After our study was published, we became aware of additional relevant ExxonMobil advertorials not included in our original analysis. Here, we present a document-by-document content analysis of 1448 advertisements, which include these additional materials. Our original finding is reinforced: between 1989–2004, Mobil and ExxonMobil Corp advertorials overwhelmingly expressed doubt about AGW as real and human-caused, serious, and solvable. By including additional advertorials in this expanded analysis, we now conclude with even greater confidence that Exxon, Mobil, and ExxonMobil Corp misled the public.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab89d5

If the oil companies hadn't done any research at all, then at least I could say they were just promoting their product. But they lied about it from their own research.

Quote: rxwine

If the oil companies hadn't done any research at all, then at least I could say they were just promoting their product. But they lied about it from their own research.

Let me guess, you think the oil companies run the world or something?

Keep begging for your money and freedoms to be taken away. You will love it when the USA becomes East Germany.

That's exactly what's happening.

"...freedoms to be taken away."

It's shocking these folks can't see it.

Quote: DoubleGold

That's exactly what's happening.

"...freedoms to be taken away."

It's shocking these folks can't see it.

The shocking part is they beg for more and more of it.

Like the people who want their HOA to regulate them more and more and more. They hear "greater good" and believe it.

Quote: AZDuffman

The shocking part is they beg for more and more of it.

Like the people who want their HOA to regulate them more and more and more. They hear "greater good" and believe it.

That's a good example.


Where I am, there's 24-hour gated security.

About 10 employees or so.


I can see the beach outside of the full length windows, along with mountains.

Very beautiful.

All notes are paid-off.


But the price is ridiculous ($200 per month).

Quote: DoubleGold

That's a good example.


Where I am, there's 24-hour gated security.

About 10 employees or so.


I can see the beach outside of the full length windows, along with mountains.

Very beautiful.

All notes are paid-off.


But the price is ridiculous ($200 per month).

In a condo you need it due to shared structure. But these people who love them in detached homes amaze me. Pay a fee so you can get fined if you paint your house a shade someone does not like. Still, the sheep love it because they are afraid someone will do something they do not approve of. Pure East Germany.