Malaysian Jet
March 12th, 2014 at 6:49:59 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
As you note, Mode C can be turned off while leaving the beacon operational. In that case, the track would show XXX where we would expect to see an altitude readout in 3 digits. If the track has lost the transponder altogether, it shows "CST" which stands for coast, or "UNA" which means unassociated with a target. The misleading part for the operator is that those often time-share with other information, such as type aircraft or route (the tag is very compressed), and a symbol which denotes the tag overlays the actual target. If the operator is "working the tags" rather than the targets, which is a very common error, they may not notice that the tag has no actual aircraft it's associated with. In the Air France case, the least likely reason for them to not hear from an overseas flight is that something bad actually happened. It's common to lose contact with over water/polar flights, though the satellite network and its associated commercial providers like ACARS have made huge improvements just in the last 10 years. So they would have assumed that they just lost comm over the Atlantic, not that they lost the airplane, until they didn't acquire it at the correct time. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
March 12th, 2014 at 7:14:52 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The Chinese satellite images of the three large objects is only around 140 miles from the last known point of the aircraft. It seems like it should have been in the initial search area. |
March 13th, 2014 at 12:08:59 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Scanning the headlines and polishing off the last of a six pack of cider, I find two authoritative statements. The plane attempted a turn and tried to return to Malaysian airspace. The plane flew onward for four hours after the LKP, based on ACARS data stream. |
March 13th, 2014 at 3:53:47 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The 11th press release from Malaysia Airlines addressed ACARS without mentioning that fact.
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March 13th, 2014 at 6:50:33 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5098 | The latest is that the engines sent a signal for the manufacturer to monitor, but this did not track the plane. However, the signal continued so long that the radius of the search area is now 2200 miles! Hijacking now a theory. I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
March 13th, 2014 at 7:08:14 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Malaysia dispute that claim. |
March 13th, 2014 at 7:29:59 AM permalink | |
boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 | The thing is, that if it were a hijacking, to what end? So, now you're the proud owner of a Boeing 777 with 200+ souls. You issue no demands? Hijacking has a purpose, or at least, it's supposed to. And where are you going to land the plane? Vietnam? Cambodia? China? There are plenty of fishy things -- no communication from the cockpit, no debris, no ACARS data, conflicting reports... the plane really vanished. |
March 13th, 2014 at 11:09:57 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | China has now said the satellite images are not the jet. I am a little puzzled by this idea of searching the Indian Ocean. You can't search the entire Indian Ocean by ship or plane. They must have some information. |
March 13th, 2014 at 3:35:11 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18756 | Heard that 9 days is the longest a modern jet like this has ever been missing. Close to breaking that record. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
March 13th, 2014 at 3:44:56 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
If they are searching SOMEWHERE in the Indian Ocean, consider the record broken. The Malaysian government should never have told the relatives of the survivors that they will never give up. |