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Quote: GenoDRPh

Not to take Donny's side on this, but why should he? We don't have a draft and an all volunteer service. There is no theater-sized war. There is no threat of invasion to the homeland. Why should Barron want to drop out of college and join? Leave the kid(s) alone.

He doesn't have to drop out, he can join the Reserved/NG in college (that is what I did.)

But, yes if your family supports starting massive wars, when not a single member of your family going back to the 1st generation in the U.S. has served, that is a problem.

Like I have a lot of issues with the Bushes, but at least they served. Heck even Hunter Biden served -joining the Navy in his 40s- (yes I know he got kicked out for failing drug tests, he still served when he really didn't need to.)

Quote: Gandler

He doesn't have to drop out, he can join the Reserved/NG in college (that is what I did.)

But, yes if your family supports starting massive wars, when not a single member of your family going back to the 1st generation in the U.S. has served, that is a problem.

Like I have a lot of issues with the Bushes, but at least they served. Heck even Hunter Biden served -joining the Navy in his 40s- (yes I know he got kicked out for failing drug tests, he still served when he really didn't need to.)

I am from a ‘non military’ family. But I really appreciate all those who have served. Here in The Villages people adorn their golf carts with symbols of their military service, as well as the frequent hat or T shirt. I always make it a point to thank them for their service.

I’m wondering if BT serving would actually be a negative in today’s political environment? Secret service protection for an enlisted man? He’d be derided for whatever ‘special arrangements’ are necessary.

Quote: SOOPOO

I am from a ‘non military’ family. But I really appreciate all those who have served. Here in The Villages people adorn their golf carts with symbols of their military service, as well as the frequent hat or T shirt. I always make it a point to thank them for their service.

I’m wondering if BT serving would actually be a negative in today’s political environment? Secret service protection for an enlisted man? He’d be derided for whatever ‘special arrangements’ are necessary.

I mean Hunter Biden joined in 2013, right at the height of Joe Biden's presidency (granted he was 43, so a bit older than Baron.). Biden's less controversial son was also in the military for his father's time as VP and even did a deployment to Iraq while his father was VP. They both survived.

That being said, adult children can dent secret service protection for period of time if they wish (like in boot camp hypothetically.). That is an interesting question, if you could even bring SS protection on a deployment. I am not sure how that would work, you would probably be forced to deny protection or be removed from the roster.

Quote: Gandler

He doesn't have to drop out, he can join the Reserved/NG in college (that is what I did.)

But, yes if your family supports starting massive wars, when not a single member of your family going back to the 1st generation in the U.S. has served, that is a problem.

Like I have a lot of issues with the Bushes, but at least they served. Heck even Hunter Biden served -joining the Navy in his 40s- (yes I know he got kicked out for failing drug tests, he still served when he really didn't need to.)

Last I checked, Barron hasn't said anything in public about the war. Leave the kid(s) alone.

Quote: SOOPOO

I am from a ‘non military’ family. But I really appreciate all those who have served. Here in The Villages people adorn their golf carts with symbols of their military service, as well as the frequent hat or T shirt. I always make it a point to thank them for their service.

I’m wondering if BT serving would actually be a negative in today’s political environment? Secret service protection for an enlisted man? He’d be derided for whatever ‘special arrangements’ are necessary.

i come from a quasi-military family. Some males served throughout the generations, and they all know of the respect I have for them. The last person (stranger) I thanked for their service was drunk off his @ss and had eyes for the girl I was with, so I don't bother anymore. But, they all now how I feel about them.

The SS has rules about protectees. And, yes, Beau Biden had SS protection while he was on active duty and while he was serving in the war zone. The SS has been protecting family members for decades and know they are doing and will protect protectees, even in boot camp and active duty wherever they may be. the SS would give him a somewhat wide, discreet berth and protect him from a respectful distance, coordinated with military command. he would not be the first son of a President or former President to enlist, be drafted or commissioned.

Derided? Hardly. If he kept his nose down, focused on training and worked hard, he'd be treated...like any other recruit.

Quote: SOOPOO

TDS. Which post of mine leads you to believe I think highly of Trump? I’ll wait.

You didn't have to wait long.

When you responded to my opening post accusing me of having the infamous TDS...THAT indicates your disagreement with the theme of my inquiries and buttresses my conclusion that you support the fat oaf, tha you think highly of him.

I mean, you aren't even conceding the reality that the democrats will go after him for crimes committed while in the oval office as I suspect your blind adoration prevents you from seeing clearly.

Oh sure, you call him out occasionally for stupid shit but by and large you seem not to have a poor opinion of him, while mocking folks like me who understandably recognize him as a Clear and Present Danger.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Last I checked, Barron hasn't said anything in public about the war. Leave the kid(s) alone.

He literally has made multiple posts about Iran. And, he is over 18. If you want to be in the spotlight, once you are 18, you are going to be subject to criticism. Especially when your views are hypocritical.

I am old enough to remember people saying, "don't be critical of the Iraq war if you are not a veteran.". My view is much more generous, my view is, "you can't be pro-war if you are not willing to risk your own blood.". Especially when you come from a family who calls draftees "suckers and losers."

Quote: missedhervee

You didn't have to wait long.

When you responded to my opening post accusing me of having the infamous TDS...THAT indicates your disagreement with the theme of my inquiries and buttresses my conclusion that you support the fat oaf, tha you think highly of him.

I mean, you aren't even conceding the reality that the democrats will go after him for crimes committed while in the oval office as I suspect your blind adoration prevents you from seeing clearly.

Oh sure, you call him out occasionally for stupid shit but by and large you seem not to have a poor opinion of him, while mocking folks like me who understandably recognize him as a Clear and Present Danger.

I have a very low opinion of him. I think he is a bad human being. I do not think he is close to being intelligent. I have called him out for the emoluments clause more times than I can count. I have more confidence in our checks and balances than you do. The country will be just fine. We are way more resilient than you think.

Quote: Gandler

He literally has made multiple posts about Iran. And, he is over 18. If you want to be in the spotlight, once you are 18, you are going to be subject to criticism. Especially when your views are hypocritical.

I am old enough to remember people saying, "don't be critical of the Iraq war if you are not a veteran.". My view is much more generous, my view is, "you can't be pro-war if you are not willing to risk your own blood.". Especially when you come from a family who calls draftees "suckers and losers."

As an American, we can comment on any topic Vietnam, the first Gulf War, 9-11, the Afghanistan Invasion, the Iraqi Invasion, the killing of Bin Laden or the Iran Not-A-War as we see fit. That's our freedom of speech, whether we are veterans or not. Anyone who ever told me to keep my mouth shut about those topics was told to f&kc off if they don't like it.

I admit to not keeping up with Barron Trump, so I certainly missed any and all posts he made about Iran. Doesn't he avoid social media? Can you please reference any of his posts in support of attacking Iran?

Barron didn't make his grandfather's decision to not enlist. He didn't make his father's decision to not enlist. He didn't make the decision for any of his uncles or aunts or cousins or whomever to not enlist. He is not more responsible or answerable for the actions of those who came before him than you or I or SooPoo or anyone else was responsible for the actions of our ancestors. We do not visit the sins of a father on their sons. And not enlisting is not a sin.

Again, we are not fighting a theater sized conflict. We are not facing a threatened or actual invasion of our homeland. US Interests here or abroad are not under attack. His enlistment or officer commission is not necessary for our national security, as welcomed as it may be. Furthermore, right now, including the reserves, only 0.5% of the US population wears a uniform, less than that for 18-24 year olds. Gonna publicly call every other 18 to 24 years old male in the US a coward for not enlisting?

if we valued military service that highly, we would have reelected GHWB in 1992, elected Bob DOle in 1996, elected Al Gore in 2000, John Kerry in 2004 and McCain in 2008. Indeed, the GOP showed how little they valued honorable service with their Swift Boat attacks on Kerry in 2004. Screw them and their Potemkin patriotism.

As well, he is too tall for military service. There aren't uniforms that fit him. There isn't safety equipment that fits him. He may not be able to effectively fit in a vehicle, or tank or helicopter.

Leave the kid(s) alone.

Quote: SOOPOO

I have a very low opinion of him. I think he is a bad human being. I do not think he is close to being intelligent. I have called him out for the emoluments clause more times than I can count. I have more confidence in our checks and balances than you do. The country will be just fine. We are way more resilient than you think.

The checks and balances only work if they actually are used.

Your secret admiration of Donny and his Presidency shows.