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Birthright citizenship
| December 10th, 2025 at 3:57:56 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22932 | I can't figure out any reason to be for or against this. Like any other program, if you got here at one time you benefitted from it, and if it's gone, new people won't. I would be against retroactive law. So, if there is a stupid thing they can do that would make me against it, that would be it. I think are issues that still need to be worked out if it's gone though. We don't have any slaves (until Trump makes some) so not worried about what still could be owed in that area, *Technically, not a program, but whatever "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 8:44:10 AM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 158 Posts: 5471 | Riddle me this... A commercial jet liner is flying from Canada to South America. On board, a pregnant passenger (not an American) unexpectedly gives birth while the plane is flying over the USA. Is the new born an American citizen notwithstanding the birth happened not on land but miles above it? |
| December 10th, 2025 at 10:17:17 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22932 |
I think they have to shoot it down. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 11:54:39 AM permalink | |
| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 2827 |
Let's not be too hasty. Just send Mom and baby down in a parachute. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 1:34:59 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5730 |
I would think the child is considered as having been born in Canada as they have not officially entered either the USA or whatever SA country they were flying to. If only there was a lawyer on this board who could find this out for us….. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 2:01:59 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 158 Posts: 5471 |
Ah, so by that analysis all the kids born to the millions of wetbacks who came here illegally and gave birth are not US citizens?
Yes, if only... |
| December 10th, 2025 at 2:23:35 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22932 | As far as being on land, Cubans once had to actually reach the beach for possible asylum. That was probably different over the years. Right now, if an immigrant becomes a US citizen all their children under 18 living here with them become US citizens even if they were born abroad. I looked that up as I didn't know. As I looked that up, it still might not be right. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 2:35:41 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22932 | I was curious, what reasons, some people might "jump the line" so to speak.
Of course, if you're a Republican, you believe illegals come straight from the border, steal a good job from a hard working American, and hit the voting booth for Democrats de manera expeditiva! "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 5:05:41 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5730 |
Nope. Those that you mentioned are actually born in what is the USA. I don’t think a plane flying OVER the USA is deemed to ever have been in the USA. The people on that plane needed no permission to enter the USA. I believe they are still deemed to be in Canada until they land in South America. |
| December 10th, 2025 at 6:35:08 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 158 Posts: 5471 | Consider this: same scenario, plane flying from Canada to South America. Over Iowa a bomb goes off killing everyone on board. Methinks the USA would have primary jurisdiction over the investigation; given that, why wouldn't the same apply to the birthing issue? On the ground or above it, who cares? Also assume hypothetically that somehow a woman gives birth while being suspended in the air by one of those devices that lets you simulate flying: would the child be deemed to being born in the USA, even though during birth neither he nor mom were touching the surface? Jus soli, yes? So many questions... |