Trump 2025

January 13th, 2025 at 12:30:20 PM permalink
Evenbob
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So far I have not seen anybody in the media call mark Zuckerberg a liar about what he's saying about the Biden administration. On Joe Rogan show he said that people in the Biden administration would call him on the phone and scream at him to censor everything negative about the current administration. And he had no choice because they threatened him with investigations and things that would slow his business down to a crawl. This is why he flew down to Mar-A-Lago and talked to Trump because this is not a communist country yet, and what Biden was doing is pure communism. Control the Press control the media stifle any criticism. It's just as bad as we thought only worse. They told him to lie about things that he knew were the absolute truth.
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January 13th, 2025 at 12:45:55 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: Evenbob
They told him to lie about things that he knew were the absolute truth.


Are you talking about how they convinced Trump to promote his patently false notion of the 2020 election being stolen?
January 13th, 2025 at 1:21:25 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
So far I have not seen anybody in the media call mark Zuckerberg a liar about what he's saying about the Biden administration. On Joe Rogan show he said that people in the Biden administration would call him on the phone and scream at him to censor everything negative about the current administration. And he had no choice because they threatened him with investigations and things that would slow his business down to a crawl. This is why he flew down to Mar-A-Lago and talked to Trump because this is not a communist country yet, and what Biden was doing is pure communism. Control the Press control the media stifle any criticism. It's just as bad as we thought only worse. They told him to lie about things that he knew were the absolute truth.


I think you are talking more fascist than communist.
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January 13th, 2025 at 4:53:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
I think you are talking more fascist than communist.


I don't know, the USSR was famous for its stifling of the media and forcing them to lie about everything and to suppress the truth. Just like Biden is doing.
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January 13th, 2025 at 5:09:32 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
I don't know, the USSR was famous for its stifling of the media and forcing them to lie about everything and to suppress the truth. Just like Biden is doing.


The USSR and communists *owned* the media. Fascist nations just bully the media, like Biden did.

In any case in just over 6 days now Trump becomes only the 2nd double-president. His second election shows how silly all those "historians say he is the worst POTUS ever" claims were. It also guarantees the Biden administration will be seen as a failure by any measure.
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January 13th, 2025 at 5:45:26 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
The USSR and communists *owned* the media. Fascist nations just bully the media, like Biden did.

In any case in just over 6 days now Trump becomes only the 2nd double-president. His second election shows how silly all those "historians say he is the worst POTUS ever" claims were. It also guarantees the Biden administration will be seen as a failure by any measure.


It takes years for the dust to settle and for the truth to come out. It's like John Kennedy, when he was shot everybody said he was the best president in history. Now we know he's probably one of the worst. With Joe Biden it's only going to get worse, when the rats start writing the books about day to day life in the White House and who really made the decisions.
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January 14th, 2025 at 4:43:09 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
It takes years for the dust to settle and for the truth to come out. It's like John Kennedy, when he was shot everybody said he was the best president in history. Now we know he's probably one of the worst. With Joe Biden it's only going to get worse, when the rats start writing the books about day to day life in the White House and who really made the decisions.


JFK is seen as being good because the times allowed him to act on things. That can be a big problem when they are not. People wished Bill Clinton had more to act on, instead it was a mostly peaceful time. Clinton supporters were almost upset 9/11 happened under Bush's watch instead of Clinton's. Clinton eventually settled for "small ball singles and doubles" of domestic policy. History will show him as average at best. Obama kept trying to force things so he could be a "transformational President" but you cannot force that. You act on it when it comes. History likewise will show Obama to be average at best.

JFK had lots to act on. Cuban Missile Crisis he did good. Bay of Pigs not so good. He looks good compared to the LBJ, who history shows to be a failure. He comes after Eisenhower, who like Clinton was around in a quiet time.
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January 14th, 2025 at 5:30:18 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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I have heard that Trump has 100 Executive Orders ready to go as soon as he gets back to the office after being sworn in. This is a man ready to hit the ground running. The left wingers out there are going to go nuts. And that is just day HOUR ONE!
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January 14th, 2025 at 6:08:05 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: AZDuffman
I have heard that Trump has 100 Executive Orders ready to go as soon as he gets back to the office after being sworn in. This is a man ready to hit the ground running. The left wingers out there are going to go nuts. And that is just day HOUR ONE!


I can’t wait to see them all. I’m guessing I’ll be in favor of 2/3 of them. But this kind of action is what the people voted for.

As far as the Greenland nonsense, a real leader goes at it this way…..

‘My analysis of the threats to the USA show that Greenland could be crucial in our defense system. I would like to propose a mutually beneficial deal with the people of Greenland that would allow for an increased US military presence on the island. And perhaps some form of annexation with appropriate compensation for existing Greenlanders could be worked out. And of course we would never use force against the people of Greenland.’
January 14th, 2025 at 6:17:30 AM permalink
rxwine
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‘My analysis of the threats to the USA show that Greenland could be crucial in our defense system. I would like to propose a mutually beneficial deal with the people of Greenland that would allow for an increased US military presence on the island. And perhaps some form of annexation with appropriate compensation for existing Greenlanders could be worked out. And of course we would never use force against the people of Greenland.’


I am quite skeptical of National Security argument. Maybe in 1940 it was true. We're not short of land in strategic places, or defense capability, whether across the ocean, and around the world.

I'm not so skeptical that this isn't about the other assets supposed to be in Greenland. The kind oligarchs would be interested in.
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