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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 5257 | Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: fleaswatter Fanny Willis' lawfare case against President Trump and others just got flushed down the toilet: info here
I blame Willis. There wasn't any lawfare-Donny and his cronies were properly indicted and deserved conviction. But, she didn't follow the rules, appointed her bf as special counsel or whatever, and since the process and means matter in American courtrooms, here we are-Donny and his fellow insurrectionists and traitors now get to go free. Screw them.
Uh…. that’s not what happened, and you know it. They were allowed to go forward with the case with a new prosecutor. THEY JUST COULDN’T find one stupid enough to bring the case that had no chance of reaching a conviction. As I’ve mentioned earlier, when Trump wanted the officials to ‘find Xthousand votes’ he realistically believed those votes EXISTED! Whether YOU believed they existed, or even IF they existed, is IRRELEVANT. I believe Trump truly thought he won, and wanted the officials to find the legally cast votes to prove it. NO PROSECUTOR OTHER THAN SLEAZY Willis felt there was enough evidence to convict Trump, hence, NO TRIAL! Not all ‘lawfare’ prosecutions are successful.
Donny's "realistic" belief in thousands of votes out there to be found was, at best, a reckless disregard for the truth, perhaps a delusion, or a criminal attempt to engage in vote fraud to illegally stay in power. A truth belief in a wrong facts does not absolve someone of their crimes. Screw him and his co-conspirators. And what is this "lawfare" of which you speak? Please define.
Funny you should ask about ‘lawfare’. It’s a somewhat nebulous term. But I use it to mean a prosecution that would not have happened without political motives. As I just clearly outlined, there are many different interpretations to Trump’s ‘find me X votes’ that there is NO WAY you can get over the bar of reasonable doubt to convict him. So any prosecution is CLEARLY ‘lawfare’. I’d say the prosecution of Letitia James is another example. I believe she is guilty of the crime she is accused of, but is only being prosecuted because of political reasons. Think 100 guys jaywalking but ONLY Trump is cited. Look at Flea’s post right above this one if you want more examples of Lawfare. Trump is not shy to use it.
If she handled it right, Fani Willis would;ve cleaned Donny's clock with the "I just want to find 11,780 votes" quote. A self-snitch if there ever was one. A reckless disregard for the truth and an attempt to illegally stay in power by overturning the results of an election properly conducted by GA. Because she screwed it up, here we are. Prosecutorial discretion isn't lawfare. Otherwise nobody would ever be prosecuted, or everyone would be.
Geno is a moron. If Trump said ‘make up 11,780 votes’ that would be one thing. He wanted votes that he believed were cast to be found. If I didn’t think something existed, I’d ask you to MAKE THEM UP, not FIND something. You can only FIND something that exists. Geno does not understand that a REASONABLE person could infer Trump actually thought he had enough votes. Heck, he’s said that about most of the states he lost. Being delusional is not a crime. Being wrong is not a crime. I’ll change my tune if you can find ONE piece of evidence that Trump instructed someone to MAKE UP votes that weren’t cast. I won’t hold my breath.
"But, Mr. Mayor I have nothing to arrest him for." -Cop "Fine Something." -Mayor ---------- In that show we all knew what that means.... You do too, you... |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2834 | Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: SOOPOO Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: fleaswatter Fanny Willis' lawfare case against President Trump and others just got flushed down the toilet: info here
I blame Willis. There wasn't any lawfare-Donny and his cronies were properly indicted and deserved conviction. But, she didn't follow the rules, appointed her bf as special counsel or whatever, and since the process and means matter in American courtrooms, here we are-Donny and his fellow insurrectionists and traitors now get to go free. Screw them.
Uh…. that’s not what happened, and you know it. They were allowed to go forward with the case with a new prosecutor. THEY JUST COULDN’T find one stupid enough to bring the case that had no chance of reaching a conviction. As I’ve mentioned earlier, when Trump wanted the officials to ‘find Xthousand votes’ he realistically believed those votes EXISTED! Whether YOU believed they existed, or even IF they existed, is IRRELEVANT. I believe Trump truly thought he won, and wanted the officials to find the legally cast votes to prove it. NO PROSECUTOR OTHER THAN SLEAZY Willis felt there was enough evidence to convict Trump, hence, NO TRIAL! Not all ‘lawfare’ prosecutions are successful.
Donny's "realistic" belief in thousands of votes out there to be found was, at best, a reckless disregard for the truth, perhaps a delusion, or a criminal attempt to engage in vote fraud to illegally stay in power. A truth belief in a wrong facts does not absolve someone of their crimes. Screw him and his co-conspirators. And what is this "lawfare" of which you speak? Please define.
Funny you should ask about ‘lawfare’. It’s a somewhat nebulous term. But I use it to mean a prosecution that would not have happened without political motives. As I just clearly outlined, there are many different interpretations to Trump’s ‘find me X votes’ that there is NO WAY you can get over the bar of reasonable doubt to convict him. So any prosecution is CLEARLY ‘lawfare’. I’d say the prosecution of Letitia James is another example. I believe she is guilty of the crime she is accused of, but is only being prosecuted because of political reasons. Think 100 guys jaywalking but ONLY Trump is cited. Look at Flea’s post right above this one if you want more examples of Lawfare. Trump is not shy to use it.
If she handled it right, Fani Willis would;ve cleaned Donny's clock with the "I just want to find 11,780 votes" quote. A self-snitch if there ever was one. A reckless disregard for the truth and an attempt to illegally stay in power by overturning the results of an election properly conducted by GA. Because she screwed it up, here we are. Prosecutorial discretion isn't lawfare. Otherwise nobody would ever be prosecuted, or everyone would be.
Geno is a moron. If Trump said ‘make up 11,780 votes’ that would be one thing. He wanted votes that he believed were cast to be found. If I didn’t think something existed, I’d ask you to MAKE THEM UP, not FIND something. You can only FIND something that exists. Geno does not understand that a REASONABLE person could infer Trump actually thought he had enough votes. Heck, he’s said that about most of the states he lost. Being delusional is not a crime. Being wrong is not a crime. I’ll change my tune if you can find ONE piece of evidence that Trump instructed someone to MAKE UP votes that weren’t cast. I won’t hold my breath.
"But, Mr. Mayor I have nothing to arrest him for." -Cop "Fine Something." -Mayor ---------- In that show we all knew what that means.... You do too, you...
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| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Posts: 5493 | Quote: SOOPOO Of course the show of force cannot stop this type of targeted assassination from someone who hates our country. But it certainly can help in deterring ‘regular’ criminals.
Will it really? How will it prevent embezzlement? Domestic violence? Drug dealing? Murder? What, you think just because LE temporarily swells that people will behave better? I don't: this will likely inflame more than quell, but then few have said that the draft-dodging oaf gives much thought about reality when he implements the scripted MAGA playbook imposed upon him by his handlers. |
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| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 22939 | If this really happened (and that remains to be seen). I don't think there's a question it would be a war crime. Quote: According to officials with direct knowledge of the mission, U.S. special operations forces targeted a small vessel suspected of transporting narcotics. After the first missile strike destroyed the boat and killed most of the crew, observers reported seeing at least two survivors clinging to debris. Hegseth allegedly directed forces to launch a second strike to eliminate the remaining survivors, a move experts describe as potentially unlawful under long-standing rules of armed conflict, which prohibit killing combatants who are “hors de combat,” or out of the fight.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2834 | Quote: rxwine If this really happened (and that remains to be seen). I don't think there's a question it would be a war crime.
Meanwhile, Donny is going to pardon a former Honduran President who was actually convicted of drug crimes... |
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| OnceDear Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Posts: 1788 | Quote: GenoDRPh Meanwhile, Donny is going to pardon a former Honduran President who was actually convicted of drug crimes...
...claiming he was treated "very harshly and unfairly." |
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| fleaswatter Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 1755 | Not only has fanny willass's Georgia case against President Trump and others has been flushed down the toilet, it looks like the Fulton taxpayers are now on the hook for several million dollars. info here |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2834 | Quote: fleaswatter Not only has fanny willass's Georgia case against President Trump and others has been flushed down the toilet, it looks like the Fulton taxpayers are now on the hook for several million dollars. info here
Another example of caustic effects of not playing by the rules. If she handled the case properly, Donny and his cronies would be behind bars by now. And rightfully so. |
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| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5746 | Quote: rxwine If this really happened (and that remains to be seen). I don't think there's a question it would be a war crime.
‘Officials with direct knowledge of the mission’? Do any of these officials have names? It sounds like they are alleging war crimes, or at least some sort of crime, but they are spreading rumors instead of coming out? I guess if you are a Trump appointee the MSM will smear you without evidence. And usually with no repercussions towards them. How many millions will Hegseth get from the WaPo when he sues them? If there is actual evidence/witnesses/ transcripts, let’s see them. Oh yeah, they are on the same Betamax tape that has Trump being peed on. |
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| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22939 | Quote: SOOPOO ‘Officials with direct knowledge of the mission’? Do any of these officials have names? It sounds like they are alleging war crimes, or at least some sort of crime, but they are spreading rumors instead of coming out? I guess if you are a Trump appointee the MSM will smear you without evidence. And usually with no repercussions towards them. How many millions will Hegseth get from the WaPo when he sues them?
If there is actual evidence/witnesses/ transcripts, let’s see them. Oh yeah, they are on the same Betamax tape that has Trump being peed on.
As this administration has no record of vindictive qualities, yes, I don't see why anyone isn't running to a microphone to tell on them. No one is even losing their job for delivery of bad news, much less even worse things. Seriously, what do you expect? "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
