Trump 2025

Quote: Evenbob

The media knows if they don't have lies about Trump they don't have anything worth reporting. CNN and MSNBC raked in hundreds of millions of advertising dollars when Trump was President by doing nothing but lie about him for four years. There were 21 hoaxes all together that were reported on as real news. They will have a very tough time doing that this time. For one thing they don't have a fraction of the audience they had because everybody caught on that they were a bunch of liars.

I have watched lots of MSNBC "highlights" of election night and it is amazing anyone can believe it is a news organization. The others are not all that much better. Fortunately it seems we may be hitting a revolution in news not seen since the mid-1990s. Podcasts started to take hold this cycle, next cycle I expect they will be the new force similar to how Limbaugh, et al gave a new voice back then.

About time!

Democrats will probably end up putting up a jobber in 2028 as they are really out in the woods at the moment. Now, they thought Clinton might be a jobber in 1992 so you never know. My thought is Trump will run wild for the next 2 years, making all kinds of good changes. Dems will be on defense. If he tries to close the Dept of Education they will go so insane they may lose 2028 there and then.

Quote: Evenbob

Five figures means under $100,000 total? He settled two lawsuits that were both over 250 million dollars and he had the best lawyers in the country representing him and you think he only got $100,000? That wouldn't even pay for a tenth of the lawyer fees. Let's see some links pointing to where you get your information from.

As you wish:

https://www.techdirt.com/2020/07/28/nick-sandmanns-wacky-qanon-supporting-lawyer-threatens-reporters-speculating-washington-posts-settlement-with-sandmann/

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/04/nick-sandmann-who-we-were-told-would-be-rich-beyond-belief-from-all-the-media-companies-he-sued-loses-basically-all-of-his-cases/

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/04/supreme-court-to-nick-sandmann-lol-no-to-hearing-his-omnibus-defamation-lawsuit-against-news-orgs/

He had L. Lin Wood representing him. He was one of the best lawyers in the country...until he wasn't.

I await Duffy's evidence for a much higher amount...

Quote: GenoDRPh

As you wish:

https://www.techdirt.com/2020/07/28/nick-sandmanns-wacky-qanon-supporting-lawyer-threatens-reporters-speculating-washington-posts-settlement-with-sandmann/

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/04/nick-sandmann-who-we-were-told-would-be-rich-beyond-belief-from-all-the-media-companies-he-sued-loses-basically-all-of-his-cases/

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/04/supreme-court-to-nick-sandmann-lol-no-to-hearing-his-omnibus-defamation-lawsuit-against-news-orgs/

He had L. Lin Wood representing him. He was one of the best lawyers in the country...until he wasn't.

I await Duffy's evidence for a much higher amount...

I'm talking about an actual credible source that says he received five figures total from two lawsuits that were settled out of court that were over 250 million dollars each. He filed lawsuits totaling over 1.2 billion dollars so of course he lost a lot of those but he won some major ones and show proof that they settled for under $100,000 total. You can't do it because it's ridiculous. A credible source means something we've all heard of not some internet garbage site.

Quote: Evenbob

I'm talking about an actual credible source that says he received five figures total from two lawsuits that were settled out of court that were over 250 million dollars each. He filed lawsuits totaling over 1.2 billion dollars so of course he lost a lot of those but he won some major ones and show proof that they settled for under $100,000 total. You can't do it because it's ridiculous. A credible source means something we've all heard of not some internet garbage site.

The settlement terms were confidential, so nobody knows what the amounts were. But he mostly lost at motion hearings, with almost all allegations or counts dismissed. The appeals court upheld the judge's rulings. And SCOTUS turned down his appeal of the appeals court. So the dude pretty much lost almost everywhere. He sued for $250 million. Big deal. Doesn't mean he got anywhere near that in the settlement.

Since you will never believe any source of reporting on this issue, I am not going to spend any more time on it. Go back to your cats.

ABC apology. Sorry folks Trump not guilty of rape but sexual abuse. We're sorry for not getting the sex crime correct.

Quote: rxwine

ABC apology. Sorry folks Trump not guilty of rape but sexual abuse. We're sorry for not getting the sex crime correct.

More like, ABC, sorry we lied about this. You see, the rule is a Republican has to "act presidential" and just let us lie about him.

Quote: AZDuffman

More like, ABC, sorry we lied about this. You see, the rule is a Republican has to "act presidential" and just let us lie about him.

The infuriating thing is, if George chose his words more carefully, he would have been truthful in his statements that broadcast. So choose your words carefully, and always either speak truth or speak opinion, and do knowingly not speak lies. That's good advice for anyone.

It's not like ABC had to pay $787.5 million, though...

Assume ABC or another MSM media outlet makes false, defamatory statements about Trump while he is president: CAN he sue?

What about this notion that there can be no litigation involving a sitting president?

Surely the deck can't be stacked so as to allow him to sue but not be sued in turn?

Seems it should cut both ways.

Quote: missedhervee

Assume ABC or another MSM media outlet makes false, defamatory statements about Trump while he is president: CAN he sue?

What about this notion that there can be no litigation involving a sitting president?

Surely the deck can't be stacked so as to allow him to sue but not be sued in turn?

Seems it should cut both ways.

Since the President-elect is a public figure, one assumes the "actual malice" standard applies should he decide to sue over alleged defamation, libel or slander.

Presidents have criminal immunity for official acts under core constitutional powers, presumptive immunity for other official acts, and no immunity for unofficial acts. The aren't immune from lawsuits for conduct before they were President or conduct that falls outside of the "outer perimeter" of their office.

Hypothetical: Let's say the new President orders the new FBI director to arrest members of the Jan 6 Committee and charge them with treason or something. A judge however finds that the arrests were made without probable cause that a crime was committed or a valid arrest warrant and all charges are dismissed. Is the President immune from civil liability for wrongful arrest?

Quote: rxwine

ABC apology. Sorry folks Trump not guilty of rape but sexual abuse. We're sorry for not getting the sex crime correct.

In Manhattan, Trump could be convicted of shooting Lincoln.

If the trial was held in any other NYC Borough, that lying skank's case would have been thrown out.

I saw that Law and Order SVU episode. Her story is identical to the rape description in the episode.

She returned to Bergdorf's twenty-three times after that to go shopping. What rape victim returns to the scene of their rape?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDTSxJpu4w