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April 17th, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM permalink
rxwine
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We all have shortcomings.


If Trump were eating at my place, he'd be at the head of the table where the King/Queen sits.


Biden would not be allowed to enter my place for obvious reasons.

But the largest one I'd say, is being a Catholic and supporting abortion.

I can't reconcile that in a person.


The Catholic Church is for raped pregnant women being refused abortions. Which is the logical position for all profilers who believe life is sacred from conception. Of course if you believe life isn't immensely valuable from conception then, it's no problem having an abortion in the preferable early trimester.
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April 17th, 2024 at 12:06:38 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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The Catholic Church is for raped pregnant women being refused abortions. Which is the logical position for all profilers who believe life is sacred from conception. Of course if you believe life isn't immensely valuable from conception then, it's no problem having an abortion in the preferable early trimester.


I can honestly say I never heard that once during 8 years of catholic school.

We know you have zero value for life before birth no need to remind us.
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April 17th, 2024 at 12:18:05 PM permalink
rxwine
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I can honestly say I never heard that once during 8 years of catholic school.

We know you have zero value for life before birth no need to remind us.


Not the first time you are wrong about something that you think you know.
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April 17th, 2024 at 12:21:31 PM permalink
rxwine
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The technical correct condition, is impregnated by a rapist and conception has occurred.
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April 17th, 2024 at 12:35:26 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: rxwine
The Catholic Church is for raped pregnant women being refused abortions. Which is the logical position for all profilers who believe life is sacred from conception. Of course if you believe life isn't immensely valuable from conception then, it's no problem having an abortion in the preferable early trimester.



So you think an act of violence (death of a life) is an approved remedy for a previous immoral act like rape?

Like the evil actions balance out, huh?

No. They make a larger imbalance.
April 17th, 2024 at 12:45:34 PM permalink
rxwine
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So you think an act of violence (death of a life) is an approved remedy for a previous immoral act like rape?

Like the evil actions balance out, huh?

No. They make a larger imbalance.


If you ever get pregnant from a rape, and carry the baby to birth, feel free to preach to me about your virtuousness. I don't care either way, but at least I would give you a choice.
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April 17th, 2024 at 12:48:51 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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I can honestly say I never heard that once during 8 years of catholic school.

We know you have zero value for life before birth no need to remind us.




A person's conscience must be relatively clear or they might not be able to tell the difference.


I should say, I'd allow an atheist at my dinner table that was involved in abortions, but not at the head of the table.

It just seems very wrong to me to be a practicing Catholic and support abortion.


Like pushing climate change and buying an ocean front property at the same time.

A person is very confused about what's right and wrong.

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Is abortion ever allowed for Catholics? For a 10-year-old rape victim?

Jul 15, 2022
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“When a 10 year old girl becomes pregnant from rape, responding to her trauma by offering a second trauma makes no sense.”

“It exacerbates the original act of violence with yet more violence,” he said of abortion. “It plays off of the emotional vulnerability we all feel whenever tragedy strikes home.”

Pacholczyk pointed to a different solution for a victim facing a situation like this: love and support.

“What a young woman needs in such a situation is the support of family and friends, along with the reassurance that ‘we can get through this together,’” he said. “What she really needs is the love, hope and compassion that buoys up anyone facing uncertainty about her own future.”
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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251799/is-abortion-ever-allowed-for-catholics-for-a-10-year-old-rape-victim

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April 17th, 2024 at 12:49:04 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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So you think an act of violence (death of a life) is an approved remedy for a previous immoral act like rape?

Like the evil actions balance out, huh?

No. They make a larger imbalance.


Well, he does believe instead of a baby shower women should have a fetus shower or a clump of cells shower. At least based on his positions here.
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April 17th, 2024 at 1:01:46 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: AZDuffman
Well, he does believe instead of a baby shower women should have a fetus shower or a clump of cells shower. At least based on his positions here.



I was watching an older Michael Keaton movie the other night.

He acted as a hit-man.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20115766/

Then he went to the doctor and was diagnosed with Jacob's disease (worse than Alzheimer's).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt%E2%80%93Jakob_disease

I couldn't help but to think that both the killings and the disease were related.


Then I thought of Biden's dementia, and what he could of done to cause it.

Just speculation on my part.
April 17th, 2024 at 1:25:48 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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Here's what I'm referring to:

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Respect for Unborn Human Life: The Church's Constant Teaching
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law" (No. 2271).

In response to those who say this teaching has changed or is of recent origin, here are the facts:
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https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/abortion/respect-for-unborn-human-life

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Impassioned Biden signs order on abortion access

July 8, 2022
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Friday condemned the “extreme” Supreme Court majority that ended a constitutional right to abortion and delivered an impassioned plea for Americans upset by the decision to “vote, vote, vote vote” in November. Under mounting pressure from fellow Democrats to be more forceful in response to the ruling, he signed an executive order to try to protect access to the procedure.
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https://apnews.com/article/abortion-biden-us-supreme-court-government-and-politics-0e6496122de46f1039cbb2b5145d6d60

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