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June 27th, 2023 at 5:55:00 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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There are several issues with basic income, but this is the big one.

The debt is not sustainable the way it is.

It's a relative 4 bagger in only two decades.

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Federal Unfunded Liabilities Are Growing More Rapidly Than Public Debt

November 17, 2022
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Thus, with Social Security and Medicare included in the assessment, the federal government’s unfunded liabilities in 2021 are $93.1 trillion, or nearly 400 percent of annual GDP. That compares with $11.1 trillion as calculated in the 2001 Treasury report, which was 105 percent of GDP.
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https://www.aei.org/articles/federal-unfunded-liabilities-are-growing-more-rapidly-than-public-debt/

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June 27th, 2023 at 8:44:33 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
No, my whole argument is you are not taking 1000 dollars a month from everyone. The wealthy will likley pay over 1000 dollars a month, people in the middle class nowhere near it, and people on the bottom income basically nothing, so it will be a net gain for most people. So yes higher income people will pay more as with most tax systems, and they will get the same benefit (which will be a net loss).

I don't understand how this is complicated, some people will pay far more than 1000 a month, most people will pay less than 1000 a month, making this a net gain.


You do not understand because you do not understand economics, wealth, money and how it is created. You think it is some kind of black magic the rich do to get rich.

In any case I fail to see how wealth equality is some kind of great thing.
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June 27th, 2023 at 8:52:46 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
You do not understand because you do not understand economics, wealth, money and how it is created. You think it is some kind of black magic the rich do to get rich.

In any case I fail to see how wealth equality is some kind of great thing.


Based on your responses, I am pretty sure that I am not the one who does not understand economics.
June 27th, 2023 at 9:17:09 AM permalink
rxwine
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DRich, any mosquitoes down there? You ever hear of mosquito “dunks”? You float them in water and it produces bacteria that kills the larva. First I’ve heard of them. Non-toxic to animals and humans.
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June 27th, 2023 at 9:20:13 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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That sounds like Bill Gates trying to modify DNA of living beings in our environment.
June 27th, 2023 at 9:25:16 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: rxwine
DRich, any mosquitoes down there? You ever hear of mosquito “dunks”? You float them in water and it produces bacteria that kills the larva. First I’ve heard of them. Non-toxic to animals and humans.


Yes, lots of mosquitos where I live. We have over 400 miles of canals running through the city and mosquitos sure like them.
Never heard of the "dunk". We have our pools screened in so the bugs can't bother us while swimming,



This is what they looked like after the hurricane in September.

At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 27th, 2023 at 9:50:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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The second design is much more modernist. Rather Daliesqe.
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June 27th, 2023 at 10:51:57 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Based on your responses, I am pretty sure that I am not the one who does not understand economics.


You understand it so little you do not understand why you don’t understand. You are so far behind in the race you think you are in the lead.

Heck you need a study to tell you people like getting an extra $500 a month!
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June 27th, 2023 at 11:57:24 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: DoubleGold
It's possible financial assistance hurts a person's self-esteem more than helps.

Because it opens up usage of the term "mooch".

Like the animals that are forced to suckle the hind teat, close to the buttocks.
Yes, so it is very normal for such a person to immediately scheme to game the system. It's one way to erase feelings of shame.
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June 27th, 2023 at 11:59:39 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: rxwine
DRich, any mosquitoes down there? You ever hear of mosquito “dunks”? You float them in water and it produces bacteria that kills the larva. First I’ve heard of them. Non-toxic to animals and humans.
I use dunks in my gutters, in a couple of places they retain water and really breed the beasts ... either the gutters were done wrong, or it's from the house settling

dunks definitely work, but you would have dilution problems if you tried using them in larger bodies of water
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