DeSantis: the real deal?

Quote: DRich

He could drop dead, be arrested, or he starts taking meds that make him realize he is a moron.

What are the odds on that?
I'd bet on Trump interference hands down

Quote: terapined

Whats the difference between woke Democrat and just a Democrat ???????????????
WTF is woke???????????????
Is Tucker and his propaganda anti woke????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
"woke" is foxnews propaganda term and you bought into it

I’ll give a few examples. A person with a penis and testicles wants to use the ladies changing room at the Y. The Democrat that is in favor of legislation requiring the Y to consider that man a woman and let him in the women’s changing room is woke.
The Democrat politician that proposed giving $5million to every African American living there is woke.
The Democrat politicians that want to allow non citizens (illegally here) to vote in local elections are woke.

I could keep going….. but you get the idea. I can’t give a good definition of how I perceive ‘woke’. But I know it when I see it.

Quote: ams288

Donny and Nikki Haley are the only two declared GOP candidates so far, right?

Not sure how “without trump interference” is possible when he’s already a candidate and Big Tits isn’t.

By ‘without interference’ all I mean is that if DeSantis is the nominee Trump doesn’t sabotage his chances. Like a normal politician would do. You know, when the loser of the primary then endorses the winner of the primary. You guys know I agree with you and I expect the petulant Trump to allow Biden a second term. One way or the other….

Quote: SOOPOO

I’ll give a few examples. A person with a penis and testicles wants to use the ladies changing room at the Y. The Democrat that is in favor of legislation requiring the Y to consider that man a woman and let him in the women’s changing room is woke.

The Democrat politician that proposed giving $5million to every African American living there is woke.
The Democrat politicians that want to allow non citizens (illegally here) to vote in local elections are woke.

I could keep going….. but you get the idea. I can’t give a good definition of how I perceive ‘woke’. But I know it when I see it.

You take the most extremist examples then paint the whole left as extremists.
Then you use woke to describe the left after satisfying yourself that the entire left is extremist
I thought you were smarter then that



Transsexuals should be able to use the most sensible bathroom . In schools it should be a case by case decision by adults.
This is a complex issue. It's Fox propaganda to simply discuss this as woke
common sense needed, not this BS woke. No laws needed. Adults in can come to a good decision if given FREEDOM. We got a rape problem in this country and it's men dressed as men, not dressed as woman.

I'm against reparations. That ain't woke. What's absurd is to have this issue censored in HS. Why are you afraid of a discussion among HS students. How do develope critical thinking skills if you can't discuss it.
This ain't woke. This is foxnews propaganda. Again I'm against reparations because I have developed critical thinking skills. To be able to discuss reparations is not woke. It's foxnews propaganda to prevent discussion.
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Only citizens should vote. I'm all for that. To describe that as woke is BS

You have discussed 3 issues. What does the term "woke" have to do with discussing these issues. I agree with you on reparations and only citizens voting and I lean left. I agree with you because there is no woke agenda. There are extremists on the left but they are extremists that have nothing to do with us on the left with common sense that are against reparations and only want citizens voting.

Each issue should be discussed on its own merits. There is no woke agenda. There are separate issues.

Are you pro abortion. Who knows. Maybe you are woke :-)

Quote: terapined

You take the most extremist examples then paint the whole left as extremists.
Then you use woke to describe the left after satisfying yourself that the entire left is extremist
I thought you were smarter then that



Transsexuals should be able to use the most sensible bathroom . In schools it should be a case by case decision by adults.
This is a complex issue. It's Fox propaganda to simply discuss this as woke
common sense needed, not this BS woke. No laws needed. Adults in can come to a good decision if given FREEDOM. We got a rape problem in this country and it's men dressed as men, not dressed as woman.

I'm against reparations. That ain't woke. What's absurd is to have this issue censored in HS. Why are you afraid of a discussion among HS students. How do develope critical thinking skills if you can't discuss it.
This ain't woke. This is foxnews propaganda. Again I'm against reparations because I have developed critical thinking skills. To be able to discuss reparations is not woke. It's foxnews propaganda to prevent discussion.
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Only citizens should vote. I'm all for that. To describe that as woke is BS

You have discussed 3 issues. What does the term "woke" have to do with discussing these issues. I agree with you on reparations and only citizens voting and I lean left. I agree with you because there is no woke agenda. There are extremists on the left but they are extremists that have nothing to do with us on the left with common sense that are against reparations and only want citizens voting.

Each issue should be discussed on its own merits. There is no woke agenda. There are separate issues.

Are you pro abortion. Who knows. Maybe you are woke :-)

I specifically did NOT paint the whole left as woke. To the contrary, I gave specific examples of what I consider ‘woke’ type policy or proposals.

Ok…. One by one…. Transsexuals who are just ‘declaring’ that they are female even though they still have male genitalia should be not allowed in women’s locker rooms. To me this is simple.

Where did I say I was against discussing reparations for slavery from over 1 1/2 centuries ago? Discuss all you want. It is the imbecile who proposed it that is woke. How’s that for discussing it? I think the king of woke, Buttigieg, is for reparations.

As far as allowing non citizens to vote, I’m glad you agree with me that they shouldn’t. But that doesn’t change my perception that the Democrats that disagree with us are an example of being ‘woke’.

I’ve made my stance on abortion crystal clear. I am 100% in favor of a woman being allowed to abort her unborn fetus. But it is not the pre eminent issue that sways my vote. There are the Democrat stronghold states that will always have easy access.

Quote: SOOPOO

I specifically did NOT paint the whole left as woke. To the contrary, I gave specific examples of what I consider ‘woke’ type policy or proposals.

Ok…. One by one…. Transsexuals who are just ‘declaring’ that they are female even though they still have male genitalia should be not allowed in women’s locker rooms. To me this is simple.

Where did I say I was against discussing reparations for slavery from over 1 1/2 centuries ago? Discuss all you want. It is the imbecile who proposed it that is woke. How’s that for discussing it? I think the king of woke, Buttigieg, is for reparations.

As far as allowing non citizens to vote, I’m glad you agree with me that they shouldn’t. But that doesn’t change my perception that the Democrats that disagree with us are an example of being ‘woke’.

I’ve made my stance on abortion crystal clear. I am 100% in favor of a woman being allowed to abort her unborn fetus. But it is not the pre eminent issue that sways my vote. There are the Democrat stronghold states that will always have easy access.

You approved DeSantis removing the teaching and discussions of the reparations issue fron AP studies. I think it should remain. No issue should be off limits to discuss. Didn't you agree with DeSantis censorship stance?
If you are pro choice, aren't you woke?
Isn't being ok with a drag show woke?
I voted for Biden, is that a woke vote?
Driving an electric car, is that woke?
You seem to be the woke expert
You use the term all the time
I'm against reparations. Most of the left agrees with me.
Shouldn't being against reparations be woke since most on the left are against?????
Most democrats only want citizens voting. Isn't what most democrats believe is woke?????????
Seems to me the logic is to call dems that only want citizens voting as woke since most dems support this.
WTF is woke???????????
Is woke what majority dems believe or is it just describing a few extremists ?????????????????

Quote: SOOPOO

By ‘without interference’ all I mean is that if DeSantis is the nominee Trump doesn’t sabotage his chances. Like a normal politician would do. You know, when the loser of the primary then endorses the winner of the primary. You guys know I agree with you and I expect the petulant Trump to allow Biden a second term. One way or the other….

If Trump loses the Republican nominee, can he still get on the ballot as an independent? I don't know what the rules are.

McLaughlin & Associates published their Feb. 17-23 Survey Results

"Thinking ahead to the 2024 Democratic primary election for President, if Joe Biden were not to run again, if that election were held today among the following candidates, for whom would you vote? (Democrat Primary Voters)"

Michelle Obama leads with 19% vs. Harris and Butttigieg with 11% each.

"Thinking ahead to the 2024 Republican primary election for President, if that election were held today among the following candidates, for whom would you vote? (Republican Primary Voters)"


Jan. Trump 43% DeSantis 31%

Feb. Trump 42% Desantis 26%

Quote: Tanko

McLaughlin & Associates published their Feb. 17-23 Survey Results

"Thinking ahead to the 2024 Democratic primary election for President, if Joe Biden were not to run again, if that election were held today among the following candidates, for whom would you vote? (Democrat Primary Voters)"

Michelle Obama leads with 19% vs. Harris and Butttigieg with 11% each.

"Thinking ahead to the 2024 Republican primary election for President, if that election were held today among the following candidates, for whom would you vote? (Republican Primary Voters)"


Jan. Trump 43% DeSantis 31%

Feb. Trump 42% Desantis 26%

How was this poll conducted?
Is this an internet poll?
How many people were in the poll?
I lie all the time on internet polls.
What website was this poll conducted.
I clicked on your link and they are not providing the most important information
How can you belive this junk if they are opaque in how they got these results
How does Nate Silver rate this poll?
How much did McLaughlin and associates pay for this poll?????????
Was this poll conducted on twitter?

Added edit
Looked these guys up
They only have a 70% success rate in predicting a winner per 538. Pretty poor if you ask me

Quote: DRich

If Trump loses the Republican nominee, can he still get on the ballot as an independent? I don't know what the rules are.

It’s a state-by-state issue.

Some states have “sore loser” laws which would prevent him from getting on the ballot as an independent if he loses the GOP primary.