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Ukraine conflict
| October 9th, 2022 at 6:32:05 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
The main bridge between Russia and Eastern Ukraine has also had a section blown up. This is the main supply route for Russia. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| October 10th, 2022 at 3:32:00 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11818 |
Putin propaganda in your news feed????????? ROTFL We at the point in the war where even Russians don't want to be in Russia due to Putin. Especially anybody that can possibly be drafted. https://www.foxnews.com/world/russias-borders-desperation-draft-eligible-men-flee Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| October 10th, 2022 at 7:30:50 AM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
You really are living in a bubble TP. It is a well documented fact that many living in the Ukraine would still like to be Russians. Many in the Ukraine have Russian citizenship. The quote is from WIKI but you can find 100's of sources TP. "In the 2001 Ukrainian census, 8,334,100 identified as ethnic Russians (17.3% of the population of Ukraine);" "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| October 10th, 2022 at 8:05:00 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770 |
Do you consider Russia’s invasion legal and just? You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| October 10th, 2022 at 8:35:10 AM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
No I don't. But this is a very difficult and multifaceted problem. Is war the solution, No. Should those areas of Ukraine that want to join Russia be allowed to separate, Possibly. The details of any separation of some areas of Ukraine is a very difficult issue to resolve if the residents want it. Would you be in favour of allowing New Mexico to join old Mexico if they voted to in a referendum? How about Texas and half of Arizona becoming an independent country? Would the illegal immigrants be allowed to vote in the referendum? "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| October 10th, 2022 at 8:39:26 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11818 |
Many don't mean jack Many Trumpers in California. More Trumpers and conservatives in CA then any other state But The State will still vote Dem Same with Ukraine, most will vote for independent Ukraine Many may vote for Russia but it don't mean jack Are you actually supporting Russia over Ukraine WTF Used to be a time conservatives supported freedom fighters. Obviously the Trumper party does not Sad Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| October 10th, 2022 at 9:00:57 AM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
You are still a being a bubble boy. Do a little research. The people in Crimea consider themselves Crimean first and Ukrainian second. "Greater autonomy Are you for the restoration of the provision of the Constitution of the Republic of Crimea of 6 May 1992 which determines the regulation of mutual relations between the Republic of Crimea and Ukraine on the basis of a Treaty of Agreements?[3] Choice Votes % For 78.4 Against 21.6 Invalid/blank votes – Total 100 Registered voters/turnout Source: Minorities at Risk Project" This is an old referendum and the further West you go in the Ukraine the larger the support for the Ukraine. But there are still areas in Eastern Ukraine with majority support for joining Russia. I can't be bothered doing the research for you because you have a very closed mind and it will just be ignored anyway. Eastern Europe has many undercurrents because countries have always had very flexible borders in that area as wars surged back and forth. People have more loyalty to the relatively small area they live in rather than the current country that it nominally is part of. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| October 10th, 2022 at 3:32:50 PM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | https://thesaker.is/terror-on-crimea-bridge-forces-russia-to-unleash-shockn-awe/ "by Pepe Escobar, first published at The Cradle and posted with the author’s permission The terror attack on Krymskiy Most – the Crimea Bridge – was the proverbial straw that broke the Eurasian camel’s back." The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| October 10th, 2022 at 4:11:07 PM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11818 |
I dispute the writer Russia is definitely and absolutely losing because they still haven't taken Ukraine. Their ground game absolutely sucks and still sucks. The article is absurd and dumb. All of the sudden Russia will dominate with "shock and awe" WTF Is this Russian propaganda or what. They are in a slog and it will remain that way Russia waiting to now to dominate the war is a complete and utter fantasy. If they could have dominated Ukraine, they would have done it at the beginning. "Shock and awe" sounds like something from Bahgdad Bob when he said Iraq would dominate the US Did Bahgdad Bob change his name to Pepe Escobar :-) Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| October 10th, 2022 at 4:25:17 PM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Posting a source from TheSaker on this issue is absurd (any issue for that matter, but especially this issue, its Kremlin backed). It's equivalent to asking the KKK which race they think causes more problems when covering a BLM protest... |