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October 30th, 2021 at 4:59:34 AM permalink
RonC
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Trump appointed conservatives to the court. Biden would appoint liberals if an opening came up. "Packing" the court would be adding additional justices to the court to change the current balance without doing it through normal attrition.

RBG decided to stay on the court and denied President Obama an opportunity to replace her with another liberal-minded justice. The opening Garland (thank whoever--he is a deeply political hack) was up for wasn't filled. As the Senate changes their processes for political convenience, which has happened in more than one instance, seats may not get filled for longer periods of time if the President is from one party and the Senate is controlled by the other. That may cause more pressure on Justice Breyer as we move towards the 2022 elections if the trends stay the way they are going right now.

One thing that I don't count on is trends staying the way they are...we seem to hear that one or the other party is going to cease to exist after a big loss, ye here we are...
October 30th, 2021 at 8:22:11 AM permalink
missedhervee
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I use the term to mean he changed it to a conservative majority.
October 30th, 2021 at 8:37:49 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
I use the term to mean he changed it to a conservative majority.


Then use the right term. Say he appointed judges who follow the Constitution. You act like he did something wrong.
The President is a fink.
October 30th, 2021 at 8:45:28 AM permalink
missedhervee
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He appointed judges whom he felt were very conservative and willing to support all republican initiatives and actions.

That is not necessarily a bad thing, having a conservative court to help check any excesses of a liberal executive branch / Congress, but it seems that they have a mind of their own and are not walking in lockstep as he'd hoped.

I suspect however that the conservatives may well experience a victory on the abortion issue.

I certainly don't want the progressives' agenda to become the law of the land; in a perfect world an even-tempered, stable, intellectually well-grounded republican will be our next president.

Yeah, good luck finding one of them in today's screwed up political climate.
October 30th, 2021 at 8:54:03 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
He appointed judges whom he felt were very conservative and willing to support all republican initiatives and actions.


No. He appointed judges who strictly follow the Constitution. See, one of the problems we have today is liberals think the SCOTUS is some kind of political wing that is supposed to push an agenda. Obama once even said he wanted judges who would "fight for the little guy" or something along those lines. Which is why liberals behave so disgusting when a GOP POTUS nominates anyone then tries to destroy that person.
The President is a fink.
October 30th, 2021 at 8:56:02 AM permalink
missedhervee
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What a joke, trying to conflate Trump with supporting the constitution.

Fact is he used it to wipe his ass then flushed it down the toilet on January 6th.
October 30th, 2021 at 8:58:09 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
What a joke, trying to conflate Trump with supporting the constitution.

Fact is he used it to wipe his ass then flushed it down the toilet on January 6th.


Get over Jan 6 already. Liberals did not get upset when Algore contested the election. Or when people tried to hound electors to not vote for Trump in 2016.

If the Constitution got flushed it was when mail in voting was allowed in the first place.
The President is a fink.
October 30th, 2021 at 9:06:36 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: AZDuffman
No. He appointed judges who strictly follow the Constitution. See, one of the problems we have today is liberals think the SCOTUS is some kind of political wing that is supposed to push an agenda. Obama once even said he wanted judges who would "fight for the little guy" or something along those lines. Which is why liberals behave so disgusting when a GOP POTUS nominates anyone then tries to destroy that person.


LOL. That's hilarious. I don't remember the Constitutional provision that says that the POTUS only nominates someone for SCOTUS if he has more than x amount of time remaining in office.

IOW, both sides try to screw over the other side---and for either side to pretend that is not true (or any supporter of either side) only detracts from the credibility of anything else they might opine.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
October 30th, 2021 at 9:12:55 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: AZDuffman
Get over Jan 6 already. Liberals did not get upset when Algore contested the election. Or when people tried to hound electors to not vote for Trump in 2016.

If the Constitution got flushed it was when mail in voting was allowed in the first place.


Probably because that election was actually close and came down to one state. More to the point, one county.

I don't recall a Constitutional provision that would do anything to prevent voting by mail. In fact, the Constitution actually has very little to say about the conduct of the Election itself---likely because states (and lower jurisdictions) have their own elections for other things AND the POTUS Election is the only one in the entire country in which the votes of other states matter.

Further, the Electoral College system itself is such that it's effectively each individual state ultimately casting votes for POTUS.

In other words, if you wanted to give the Federal Government jurisdiction over the conduct of the POTUS Election, the best way to do that would be by way of a Constitutional Amendment that would do two things:

1.) Abolish the Electoral College in favor of national popular vote or ranked choice voting.

2.) Create a separate ballot for only the purpose of voting for POTUS and have that vote managed on a national level.

That's a moot point anyway as the GOP would absolutely not want #1 right now, though abolishing the EC once had overwhelming popular support. The problem that the GOP has is that no Republican has won the National Popular vote for a first term since 1988, so they'd be kind of screwed.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
October 30th, 2021 at 9:17:29 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146
Probably because that election was actually close and came down to one state. More to the point, one county.


We do not know that because Algore only wanted hand recounts in Democrat strong counties, not the entire state.

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I don't recall a Constitutional provision that would do anything to prevent voting by mail. In fact, the Constitution actually has very little to say about the conduct of the Election itself---likely because states (and lower jurisdictions) have their own elections for other things AND the POTUS Election is the only one in the entire country in which the votes of other states matter.


It is about having a secure election. Mail voting is not secure.
The President is a fink.
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