Israel under Siege

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[ I tend to be very biased towards defending America's actions during wars.

OK then, defend our involvement in Iraq.

They had WMDs.

Invisible ones. Which makes them even more dangerous.

Exactly. They had chemical weapons which are very hard to trace.

That they did an excellent job never hitting us with.

Besides, that was all missed from the 90's when they disarmed. It was mostly scattered and just basically unaccounted for.

By report Saddam had use Sarin and some nerve gas on the Iranians and an ethnic minority in Iraq; one might think, at least as to Iran, that the US would say "Good, that saves us the trouble, have at it."

But the reality is the US feared his rise as a potential region-wide Arab leader, hostile to the US, its corporations, and of course to the "man behind the curtain," Israel.

I think it is easier to just not value human life any more than an insect, and not worry about people getting killed.

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I think it is easier to just not value human life any more than an insect, and not worry about people getting killed.

Either way, probably just best to pick one or the other and go with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGPOOGL5wmI



This video was put out as a hit piece by TRT (Turkish News) against President Biden. I watched it and do not see one negative thing.

"I think it is time for us to stop apologizing for our support for Israel, There is no apology to be made, none. It is the best three billion dollar investment that we make. Were there not an Israel the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region" -Joe Biden 1996

President Biden has been a huge supporter of Israel for decades, and generally does the right thing on this issue.

Remember the USS Liberty. Thirty four Americans killed, 171 wounded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

And no apology.

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Remember the USS Liberty. Thirty four Americans killed, 171 wounded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

And no apology.

Literally the first sentence of your link (in the main body):

"Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship."


Also, its important to note Israel paid reparations to both the wounded and the families of the killed, and to the government, in less than a year. This is another point that Anti-Zionists leave out.

What other country that shot at a vehicle of ours by mistake during a war paid reparations to both the individual and the family? Even allies don't do that during joint wars (look at all of the friendly fire accidents in WWII....)

It was a secret spy ship, in Egyptian Waters, during a war with Egypt, how would they possibly know it was not Egyptian?

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Remember the USS Liberty. Thirty four Americans killed, 171 wounded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

And no apology.

Or their thirst for revenge against Black September brought about state sponsored murder of innocent people in other countries simply because somebody looked like a terrorist they were hunting.

Sadly, the left is once again failing us with the encouragement of boycotts of Israel. And, I do not mean the opposition of foreign aid to Israel (which unless you oppose all foreign aid your views are suspect at best), but people accusing Israel of "War Crimes" and "Apartheid".... Its so absurd it would be laughable, except that millions support them.

All I will say is, if you want to see true discrimination and true War Crimes visit Gaza.... The amount of coddling of terrorists is almost sickening.... I am not so concerned with what entertainers are saying, but politicians who have actual power. Pink Floyd is probably my favorite band of all time, but if Roger Waters wants to be an idiot, that is fine, he does not control the U.S. budget or policy (I only mention him because he seems to be one of the primaries paraded around Russian State TV and Qatar State TV to bash Israel).... And, dishearteningly it is largely the left that is being critical of Israel.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/19/boycott-divest-sanction-the-israeli-state

Israel should remain our true ally and a beacon of hope in the Middle East.

Yes, but the Palestinians really got the rawest of raw deals when Israel was created and they immediately became second class citizens and are forced to live in lousy conditions, politically impotent.

Who can blame them for wanting to destroy Israel?

Me, I am pro-Israel.

As for the left in America, last year it was the blacks, this year its the Palestinians.

The left can be ignored, for now anyway.