The Biden Presidency 2021

Quote: JCW09

I expected AMS to refer to some male politicians physique, that seems to be his go to these days.
The important gay stuff like genital size, Russian prostitutes, non-existent pee tapes or 'how fat is he?' comments.
Its' all so sharp from these two.

Genital size is very important.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

Quote: rxwine

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Is this copy and paste or does he spend that much time on a post lol
Did not read, too long
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Quote: rxwine

Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah is right
Is this copy and paste or does he spend that much time on a post lol
Did not read, too long
Give us the readers digest version

Quote: JCW09

Its' all so sharp from these two.

If you want a free buffet, I'll tell you where to go.

Or I can just tell you where to go, and skip the buffet part.

The wicked witch said on Monday they were voting on the BBB bill on Thursday for sure. Thursday rolls around and she says no, they're voting for sure on Friday. Poopypants Biden spends hours on the phone last night literally begging, begging on his knees, members of Congress to vote today for the bill. So a little while ago this news comes out.

"House Democrats announced Friday that they will delay for the second time this week a vote on their $1.75 trillion Build Back Better Act."

So it's been delayed yet again. Fiscally responsible members of Congress want the CBO to analyze this bill and tell them exactly what it's going to cost the American people. They won't be done with that analysis until the week of Thanksgiving. It's going to say the same thing the Wharton School said. That it will cost taxpayers trillions. Pelosi and Poopypants do not want this to officially come out because they've been lying through their teeth for months saying it's going to cost nothing. Nobody believed them, nobody with half a brain anyway. Poopypants learned from Barry that you can tell a big lie, like you can keep your own doctor, and then admit to it after the bill is passed and people will forget about it. Some members of Congress learned a different lesson, they learned the Ronald Reagan lesson. Trust, but verify.

Quote: rxwine

If you want a free buffet, I'll tell you where to go.

Or I can just tell you where to go, and skip the buffet part.

Dude likes to brag online about how big his “balance sheet” is. Doesn’t need no free buffet.

Quote: Mission146

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Umm...I think what you said is really just a matter of rhetoric. What I mean is that Republicans tend to lose when there is a ton of minority turnout...and I'm sure they get upset about losing...but I don't know that they are getting upset because minorities are voting. Were the minorities voting for them, I'm sure they wouldn't have an issue with it...except for Southern White Evangelicals, of course, many of whom would just as soon see minorities not be able to vote at all.

I'm not sure how the lottery works in your state, but many tickets are dispensed from self-service machines now in some states...so I VERY seriously doubt that the state lotteries are going to force ID's to be checked because:

A.) There's no practical way to do that when people are using self-service machines.

AND:

B.) The state knows damn well there's no practical way to do that when people are using self-service machines.

So, fourteen year olds could go into probably many places and get lottery tickets with no problem whatsoever. Cashing them might be a whole other matter, of course, but as with most things related to gambling...they really care more about verifying you when you win as opposed to before you play. That said, if you accidentally sell a 20-year-old a six pack of beer, please enjoy your $1,000 fine.

The one thing that I have to take you to task on here is that you are making, "Practical function," arguments for both mandatory background checks for guns as well as for Voter ID...but you do not like my, "Practical function," position as it pertains to the Second Impeachment and Removal attempt. I guess practical function doesn't necessarily have to rise to the level of being a principle...but in the same post?

On the other hand, I kind of did the same thing as I acknowledged that the Voter ID thing wouldn't be offering a ton in practical function. I guess the practical function would be an olive branch of compromise.

Well I guess it depends on the State, GA does not have self-service machines (to my knowledge), I do not think NJ did. I do not play the lottery so I could be wrong as I don't really look for them, but from my observations. In some cases I wish they did, because there is nothing worse than being stuck behind one person at a gas station while they buy lottery tickets one at a time, but that is purely a selfish view. In any case that was more of a silly aside (though I do think it causes damage).


But, I am not sure I am on board with the impeachment being a practical function to the same level of ID checks for guns or voting. Being impeached is a legal/political process. Its totally different than following the laws to vote or buy a gun properly.

As for minority voting, I would agree, when it benefits them. For example the GOP seems to love Cuban immigrants because they flock to them. And, to be completely fair there are some principled ones (very rare, I can think of two off of the top of my head) which want felons to be able to vote after they serve their time (which generally benefits Democrats). But, most Republicans view minorities as an obstacle. And, there certainly are plenty of GOP racists, but I agree that for the most part its about political goals.

Quote: Mission146

I basically agree with this, but it's not like Republicans are the only ones who support things until they no longer benefit them. However, here's one actual massive (though for a state Senate race) voter fraud scheme that actually happened with absentee ballots:

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/19/us/vote-fraud-ruling-shifts-pennsylvania-senate.html

If you read through that, then you will see that they would have had great difficulty coming up with copies of ID's for those people if they had been required.

I can't read it sadly because of the paywall (I guess I am out of free articles for the month).

However, googling it based on the date, I think I have an idea of what happened. And, it sounds like the system worked, the people who committed fraud got caught and were removed. Though this would not have been solved with ID (if we are reading the same case), it looks like their campaign convinced people (who did not speak English) to claim to be disabled and request a mail in ballot. So them scanning a copy of their ID would not change anything.

This (similar schemes) are common in local elections. Politicians often go to elderly homes or homes of marginalized groups (people who don't speak great English, etc...) and "bus them" to the polling station to vote for them, is this any different? Doing it by mail just debatably saves a step (and gas). In many cases this is lauded, "District City Councilman X helps seniors get to the polls on time" etc.... But, when people organize mass amounts of mailings for people who would not otherwise bother voting it suddenly becomes an issue... (I am not saying either one is right, just pointing out the double standard).

Quote: Mission146

Of course it's borderline insane. Start with that they believe in God, so believing in things with no Empirical proof whatsoever is not a concept foreign to them. Add to that believing strongly in something that they are taught in a way that relies upon a very subjective interpretation of the text (in many cases) as if it is undeniable truth.

Hear, hear, on the last part! You hit it on the head. They're all but admitting that, without God to influence them, they think that they would be terrible people. I'm going to say that's because, especially with Southern White Evangelicals, that a great number of them are either terrible people or easily brainwashed.

Well I think we at least agree that religion sucks. And, even more so the belief that religion is an attribute to be admired (which is kind of ironic, because religious people think that every other religious person will be punished, but still hold them in higher regard than atheists, even though logically they should think of them the same since atheists and competing religion both do not accept their prescription).

Quote: Mission146

They trusted him before that? Where was I when that happened?

Anyway, it's moot vis-a-vis the Impeachment because it is not the job of Congress to decide the Impeachment based on who the public, "Trusts," it's on them to decide if the Articles of Impeachment are:

A.) True.

AND:

B.) Rise to such a level as to warrant an Impeachment, and then, when it gets to the Senate, to decide if it is true and warrants removal.

I agree, that is what the process is for. I stand by the second impeachment, I still have mixed feelings about the first.

Quote: Mission146

We won't. I agree to the extent that such conduct is definitely impeachable and you seem to agree that there was virtually no chance of him being removed or barred from holding further Federal office, so I think that's as close as we will get.

Same as above.

Quote: Mission146

I don't know, Tyra Banks seems like a pretty awful person...

It's like you're saying and like I said before, Donald Trump's biggest strengths are that he's a terrific self-promoter and he's exceptionally great at selling certain types of people on ideas...but even then, he's mostly just selling his brand.

Yeah, he had bandied about the notion of running for POTUS even well before that, but I don't think he saw a realistic path to victory at that time. With the somewhat disliked Hillary Clinton as the heir apparent to Obama (this was pretty telegraphed, or at least, always reasonably likely), Trump had to start by carving himself out a baseline niche. He's not going to get that on the Left just by virtue of who he is, so go after the Far Right, virtue signal to racists, appeal to conspiracy nuts, people who distrust the Government and media and then use the word, "Bible," in a sentence once or twice to get Evangelicals on board.

He might have won reelection if he hadn't continued to take it so far even after winning the first time. However, you have to be honest and say that he played 2014-2016 pretty perfectly in terms of the only possible path he had to the Presidency. It wouldn't have happened as a third-party candidate, either, as that would have just assured Democratic victory for a third consecutive POTUS term.

I honestly have no clue who Tyra Banks is, but a quick Google search reveals her to be a victoria secret model so my interest plummets. Did she do something illegal?

But, I can concede he played his hand well, but that does not mean I have to respect his play style. There are some impressive bank robberies, that does not make them moral.

Though the third party candidate is interesting. I think that was his Trump card so to speak during the primaries, because he held that over the GOP, basically if he was not nominated he would run on his own so they would be sabotaging themselves. And, he would still look like the "hero who stood up to the system"...

Holy crap. Congress finally got copies of the 2300 page BBB bill and what's in it is mind-blowing. Energy taxes that will raise the cost of your electric bill by almost 33%, and that's to everybody, rich and poor. Amnesty for 7 million illegal aliens. The hiring of 87000 new IRS agents do comb through the bank accounts of every American looking for money they can tax you on or confiscate to bring hundreds of billions of dollars into the treasury to pay for this bill. And this is just the tip of the iceberg what's of what's in this bill. You think we've got inflation now, if this monstrosity passes there will be a recession that will rival the Great Depression.

Infrastructure bill passes the House.

Another thing Donny failed miserably at during his presidency (“infrastructure week” became a running joke for years).

Biden got it done.

Quote: ams288

Infrastructure bill passes the House.

Another thing Donny failed miserably at during his presidency (“infrastructure week” became a running joke for years).

Biden got it done.

Donny who? Unless he runs again, it doesn't matter if he failed to get this passed. His Presidency is in the past.

Now that the bills are disconnected, I am waiting to see what the scores on the other thing show and how the votes go on that.

I agree, it will go down as a win for Biden but the unknown is how much damage was done and how long anyone will remember the damage. Maybe no one will; people have short memories.