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November 28th, 2020 at 7:13:49 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Pennsylvania high court throws out challenge to mail-in ballots
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1249240
Along with that, they unanimously wiped out a lower court order that had blocked state officials from doing anything further to carry out this week’s certification of the election results

Looks like at least a technical reason, "due diligence" as in they didn't bring the issue to court in the year that the law has been on the books, and they found the proposed remedies to be disenfranchising to millions of voters, and
"All other outstanding motions are dismissed as moot."
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November 28th, 2020 at 7:20:46 PM permalink
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Quote: Dalex64
Pennsylvania high court throws out challenge to mail-in ballots
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1249240
Along with that, they unanimously wiped out a lower court order that had blocked state officials from doing anything further to carry out this week’s certification of the election results

Looks like at least a technical reason, "due diligence" as in they didn't bring the issue to court in the year that the law has been on the books, and they found the proposed remedies to be disenfranchising to millions of voters, and
"All other outstanding motions are dismissed as moot."


Can’t wait to hear EB say this is great news for Donny.
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November 29th, 2020 at 5:36:48 AM permalink
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Can’t wait to hear EB say this is great news for Donny.


I predict EB will say Trump anticipated this and is happy they finally acted so he can take it to the Supreme Court, which will appoint him a second term on a silver platter.
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November 29th, 2020 at 5:48:02 AM permalink
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I predict EB will say Trump anticipated this and is happy they finally acted so he can take it to the Supreme Court, which will appoint him a second term on a silver platter.


I am not a Constitutional/Supreme Court scholar. Is it even possible that they could rule ‘ Trump votes were suppressed illegally; he is the winner and gets a second term?” Does the SC have legal authority to overturn the election?

If it is legal to do so, and they did, I would expect the Democrats to attempt a coup. After they did a few hundred billion in damage from looting.
November 29th, 2020 at 6:00:15 AM permalink
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I am not a Constitutional/Supreme Court scholar. Is it even possible that they could rule ‘ Trump votes were suppressed illegally; he is the winner and gets a second term?” Does the SC have legal authority to overturn the election?

If it is legal to do so, and they did, I would expect the Democrats to attempt a coup. After they did a few hundred billion in damage from looting.

I'm pretty blown away that a clear majority of conservatives think Trump really won
and
They are well armed
Not good
Ive always viewed republicans as the loyal opposition. We lost 4 yeas ago and I quickly moved on admitting we lost.
The problem is Trumpers view the left as the enemy of the country, not the loyal opposition, and thats why they refuse to admit they lost. They cant let the enemy win regardless of the constitution and elections.
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November 29th, 2020 at 6:15:33 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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I'm pretty blown away that a clear majority of conservatives think Trump really won
and
They are well armed
Not good
Ive always viewed republicans as the loyal opposition. We lost 4 yeas ago and I quickly moved on admitting we lost.
The problem is Trumpers view the left as the enemy of the country, not the loyal opposition, and thats why they refuse to admit they lost


I admit Trump lost. No problem with that. But I also believe that although not the enemy of the country... the left, if fully in charge, will ruin the country for generations to come. Biden himself is not ‘the left’. I’m repeating myself.... but if Repubs keep Senate I trust Biden/Pelosi/McConnell to negotiate policies that are centrist enough for all except those on the far right or far left.
November 29th, 2020 at 6:20:53 AM permalink
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I am not a Constitutional/Supreme Court scholar. Is it even possible that they could rule ‘ Trump votes were suppressed illegally; he is the winner and gets a second term?” Does the SC have legal authority to overturn the election?


I hate to even play the devil's advocate, so will let EB or AZD explain Trump's game plan in more detail.

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If it is legal to do so, and they did, I would expect the Democrats to attempt a coup. After they did a few hundred billion in damage from looting.


You know the political affiliation of the looters, how?
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November 29th, 2020 at 7:06:34 AM permalink
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Quote: Wizard
I hate to even play the devil's advocate, so will let EB or AZD explain Trump's game plan in more detail.



I do not know how much detail I can give. But the strategy seems to be to show that states acted illegally in allowing late votes (PA) or in some other states, not following other procedures. This will mean that the votes cannot be certified and throw it to the House.

It is similar to 2000 when SCOF just made things up as it went along, then SCOTUS said they could not do that. In PA the court just magically extended the deadline for ballots when that right is for the legislature only.

And this is where judges are important. The right way to rule is based on law, not "feelings." Some claim was made that some "ballots would not be counted" because of a deadline. The answer by law is "tough luck, the deadline is the deadline and we cannot change that!" But you get activist judges that say, "OK, take 3 extra days" the three days being something a court made up.

All that need be done is get enough states to not be able to certify so that neither side gets 270 electoral votes.

And for anyone asking my position remains that the whole mail-in thing was to allow ballot harvesting and other outright fraud and should never have been done.
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November 29th, 2020 at 7:13:39 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Wizard
I hate to even play the devil's advocate, so will let EB or AZD explain Trump's game plan in more detail.



You know the political affiliation of the looters, how?


I try not to answer rhetorical questions. But... in my hypothetical the feeling would be that the ‘Trumpers’ stole the election from the DEMOCRAT candidate. Thus I’d expect those rioting and looting to be Democrats. Just like what happened when the Democrat supported group, BLM, unleashed their rioting and looting on the country. And what the Dems did in Portland. And Seattle... etc....

If you are implying the Republicans will loot and riot if Trump is declared President elect you should self suspend for trolling!
November 29th, 2020 at 7:41:30 AM permalink
Dalex64
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About 10,000 votes arrived late in PA. Biden won PA by 80,000 votes.
Those votes were counted separately, so it would be easy to include them, or not include them, in the final tally.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan