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The Election Fraud Thread
| April 7th, 2026 at 7:30:24 AM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5730 |
No one is saying it’s illegal for the Obama Library to check ID. They are saying it is profoundly hypocritical. If you saying it is MORE important to identify the state of origin of an entrant into a library than it is to make sure a voter is the actual citizen about to cast a vote, what does that say about you? It’s hypocrisy like this which adds to the overall pathetic mess that is the Democrat Party. (That does not mean the Republicans aren’t their own separate mess!) |
| April 7th, 2026 at 7:39:12 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22932 |
The correct answer is still nope. No requirement at all to run everything the same way you run an election polling place. And good thing to.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 7:45:45 AM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5730 |
Under 2 is free. 3-11 is $23. Notice they are so dimwitted they have no price for actual 2 year olds. I agree with you that that private enterprise can institute whatever ID requirements they see fit. Explain this to me…. Since all I hear from the Dims is that requiring voter ID is racist, how is the Obama Library requiring ID not racist? |
| April 7th, 2026 at 11:40:51 AM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 30 Posts: 5250 |
It is not hypocritical at all. I have different standards for private vs public functions. A private organization can have very strict entry standards if they wish. I don't think it is more or less important at a library, it is different. Voter ID does nothing statistically to impact fraud. Obsessing over voter ID does nothing to impact fraud. Voter ID requirements are used to make voting harder which impacts people who are more likely to vote left (like homeless and low income.). Voter fraud is not a problem, voter intimidation by the GOP is a problem. Remember in 2018, during Trump's first term his own, self designed voter fraud board turned out there was no statistically significant voter fraud? It's funny how little Trump and you guys talk about these findings.... There is no voter fraud in any meaningful sense. The fraud is the GOP trying to turn away eligible voters by adding weird technicalities. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 11:50:25 AM permalink | |
| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 2827 |
It isn't racist because verifying age isn't racist in either intent or application. Check out the admission prices for the Reagan Library. They have admission prices for General Admission, Senior Admission (62+),Youth Admission (11-17),Child Admission (3-10) and Children 2 & Under. I guess The Reagan Library doesn’t allow kids ages over 2 but under 3? https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/visitor-information Check out the admission prices for the Nixon Library. They have admission prices for Student/Youth ($23), Children (ages 5-11) ($19), and Children (ages 4 and under) (Free), as well as the differing ages for adults. I guess kids over 4 but under 5 aren’t allowed? https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/visit/visit-museum If SooPoo’s point that someone should proofread the admission price chart, he’s right. But, the Reagan people and the Nixon people are also equally dimwitted. And since their libraries are older, they’ve been dimwitted for much longer. But, SooPoo just wants us to ignore that. The ID requirement isn’t for ID, or accessing government services, but to show age to get the appropriate discount. As someone who is getting up in years, I’m sure Dr. SooPoo understands the benefit of hammering the senior discount and wanting to prevent people from getting a discount they aren’t eligible for. Note that I am but a few years behind...and coming up fast. Nobody will be denied admission of they are an illegal immigrant, or from out of state, or if their addresses don’t match, or the picture looks a bit off or even if the ID is from a foreign country. The ID is just to verify age for the admission price. I also remind the good doctor that Presidential Libraries are facilities run by the National Archives. As such, security and safety of the records, so ID is required to access the archives. That's also the reason why the records aren't kept in an unsecured bathroom at a social club. Again, voter ID is a solution in search of a problem. Voter eligibility is verified at registration when the registrant gives the last 4 of their SSN, or their full Driver License Number. Voter lists are maintained when death certificates are issued and the city or town or county clerk cross references with active voter rolls, or when people move and register at their new address, or when the voter doesn’t vote in consecutive elections. Voting for Reps in the House is a constitutionally protected right, right from the beginning. Voting for Senators has been a right since 1913. Voting for President has been protected, in states where they chose electors for President by popular vote, from the beginning. Voting has been protected since the Civil War Amendments were ratified, and the voting rights legislation since then. But, Republicans want to restrict that. Republicans, who at one point in the past protected the voting rights of all voters and citizens, now want to erect insidious barrier after insidious barrier. Not because there is actual voter fraud, or because they actually think voter fraud is possible or there is the appearance of voter fraud, but in the name of voter suppression. They can’t do it overtly and in the open, so they have to do it covertly, in the shadows. They have to slowly chip away at our voting rights and processes while disguising their true intentions. They are disgusting individuals and their voters deserve the days they voted for. I again issue this direct challenge to SooPoo, Duffman, N17, Tanko, fleabag and anyone else in support of voter ID laws. Prove outcome determinative voter fraud in open court or shut the fuck up about it. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 1:14:58 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5730 | I’m not going to quote the above mess of a post… But some things to me are just so simple I’m stunned there is anyone who tried to argue the other side. To vote you should show ID. It is so simple and obvious I just don’t understand the mental gymnastics those who disagree go through to feebly attempt to make even a drop of sense. ID is needed for so many things in the modern American world, somehow exempting voting is just plain stupid. Reminder…. Criminals do their darndest not to be caught. How many billions of dollars were stolen by the Somali child care swindlers before they were found out? Requiring ID to vote is a VERY LOW BAR to keep our elections secure. I think it is frankly pathetic that anyone can argue against it. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 1:59:24 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
No need to "prove outcome" to take a basic security measure. I challenge YOU to prove outcome would be changed if we had rational voter ID laws. I get that racist like yourself do not think minorities are capable of bringing an ID to the polls. OTOH, I find them more than capable of doing so. I mean, they get an ID to get a job do they not? War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| April 7th, 2026 at 5:41:58 PM permalink | |
| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 2827 |
Because you can't refute a single fact in that messy post.
To vote you should show ID. It is so simple and obvious I just don’t understand the mental gymnastics those who disagree go through to feebly attempt to make even a drop of sense. ID is needed for so many things in the modern American world, somehow exempting voting is just plain stupid. Voter ID is not needed to secure elections. Elections are secure now without voter ID, won't be made any safer or secure with voter ID and will drive away orders of magnitude more eligible voters from the polls than will prevent the miniscule number of ineligible voters from voting. The noise is much, much more greater than the signal. ANd you re too simple and bigoted to realize that.
Prove outcome determinative voter fraud in open court of shut the fuck up about it. That's a direct challenge and a dare, Scott.
It's pathetic to obstruct our civil rights, Scott. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 5:43:04 PM permalink | |
| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 2827 |
If calling me a racist makes you sleep better at night, have at it. But of the two of us, I;m not the one wanting to take away voting rights, or support those who do. |
| April 7th, 2026 at 6:13:37 PM permalink | |
| N17 Member since: Feb 18, 2024 Threads: 1 Posts: 72 |
I am all about voter suppression via ID Requirements. If you are incapable of getting an ID, you should lose your right to vote. You're clearly too stupid to have a say in how the country is run, it is as simple as that. It is very similar to that 2nd Amendment we have. If you can't prove who you are with proper ID, you don't get to purchase a firearm. I guess that makes me a proponent of gun control laws as well, who knew? Why do we require an ID to purchase a firearm, but not require one to vote. Go ahead Geno, pretzel your way out of that one. And for God's sake, under 10 paragraphs this time. |