Former slave states

Quote: gamerfreak

For sure, but I think modern conservatism is closer to classical liberalism than modern liberalism is to classical liberalism.

I am not sure of the point you are trying to make here. Should one of those "liberalism" be "libertarian"?

Quote: AZDuffman

I do not think slavery has anything to do with anything now. True for a generation or more the Democrats there were mad that a Republican freed their slaves, but a couple generational shifts since then have elapsed.

I'm not sure if that is true. Some states like Mississippi grow very slowly in population, and most people are descendants of the people who lived there 160 years earlier. Old attitudes and ideas hang around for generations.
Obviously Texas and Florida have grown so rapidly since the Civil War that they have undergone entirely new social structures as millions of people have moved in from other states and other countries.


The events of Mississippi Burning occurred a century after the civil war

Average Annual Population Change since 1860 (states that grew slower than the nation as a whole)
0.46% Vermont 1
0.50% Maine
0.89% Mississippi ~confederate
0.89% Kentucky slave
0.93% N Hampshire 2
0.99% Pennsylvania 3
1.01% Iowa
1.05% Indiana
1.07% West Virginia
1.07% Ohio
1.07% Alabama ~confederate
1.08% New York 4
1.09% Missouri slave
1.12% Massachusetts 5
1.17% Tennessee ~confederate
1.25% Louisiana ~confederate
1.26% Virginia ~confederate 6
1.28% Arkansas ~confederate
1.30% S Carolina ~confederate 7
1.32% R Island 8
1.34% Wisconsin
1.35% Illinois
1.38% Connecticut 9
1.40% Delaware 10
1.40% D.C.
1.43% Maryland slave 11
1.49% Georgia ~confederate 12
1.52% N Carolina ~confederate 13
1.53% United States -------------------------------------------

Quote: Pacomartin

I am not sure of the point you are trying to make here. Should one of those "liberalism" be "libertarian"?

No I am talking specifically about classical liberalism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

My point is that the labels Democrat or Republican need to be taken with the context of a time period. Comparing the modern version of either party to what they were hundreds of years ago doesn’t seem useful to me, other than to recognized how they have changed through the decades and centuries.