The City on Fire

Quote: terapined

Crime went down

So crime went down when a private police company took over?

Or a rebranded government department?

Bad example, and not even an example of what you claim it is....

Also, its worth noting that the size of the force doubled. Its one of the most policed cities in America.... And, rightfully so, huge crime and gang problems. The reason crime went down after the rebranding? Maybe it had more to do with increased patrols and more strength and less to do with the branding? Just a hypothesis......

Useful site:

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Quote: AZDuffman

Not a good idea, but I cannot wait to see the social workers handling calls. If this gets implemented we will see a city collapse before our eyes.

Unfortunately, that's the only way the libbies (and those sympathetic to the libbies) will ever learn...... 🙄

Quote: AZDuffman

Like in the 60s. Burn their town down then wonder why they live in a burned out slum.

Yep, that's the libbies for you! 🤣🤣

Quote: RonC

Some of the counties having problems have election boards controlled by Democrats. Of course, it is all the GOP's fault...

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Well I can't post the gifs anymore, but I'll abide by the rules so it's all good.
It's unbelievable how the libbies want to blame conservatives for THEIR problems. Like the LIBBIE rioters & looters maggots & cockroaches wreaking havoc in LIBBIE cities that are run by a LIBBIE mayor and a LIBBIE governor, yet it's conservatives fault????? 🙄

Quote: Shrek

YES!!! 👍👍
Well I can't post the gifs anymore, but I'll abide by the rules so it's all good.
It's unbelievable how the libbies want to blame conservatives for THEIR problems. Like the LIBBIE rioters & looters maggots & cockroaches wreaking havoc in LIBBIE cities that are run by a LIBBIE mayor and a LIBBIE governor, yet it's conservatives fault????? 🙄

If we stipulate that some of the rioters and looters, notably the provocateurs, often define as Anarchists, then would you agree that the riots and looting are not entirely the fault of Liberals? Personally, I consider Anarchy neither left nor right on the political spectrum.

Quote: Mission146

Quote: Shrek

YES!!! 👍👍
Well I can't post the gifs anymore, but I'll abide by the rules so it's all good.
It's unbelievable how the libbies want to blame conservatives for THEIR problems. Like the LIBBIE rioters & looters maggots & cockroaches wreaking havoc in LIBBIE cities that are run by a LIBBIE mayor and a LIBBIE governor, yet it's conservatives fault????? 🙄

If we stipulate that some of the rioters and looters, notably the provocateurs, often define as Anarchists, then would you agree that the riots and looting are not entirely the fault of Liberals? Personally, I consider Anarchy neither left nor right on the political spectrum.

I believe there were people from both fringes involved in the rioting/looting/destruction part of the process. The extremists have a common theme--they want to destroy our current way of life with a government of their choice. A situation like this gives them an opportunity to fan the flames and to cause further division among the people.

Quote: RonC

I believe there were people from both fringes involved in the rioting/looting/destruction part of the process. The extremists have a common theme--they want to destroy our current way of life with a government of their choice. A situation like this gives them an opportunity to fan the flames and to cause further division among the people.

I agree with that 100%, though I still don't put actual Anarchists anywhere on the political spectrum. It seems that would be antithetical to being an Anarchist.

Quote: Mission146

If we stipulate that some of the rioters and looters, notably the provocateurs, often define as Anarchists, then would you agree that the riots and looting are not entirely the fault of Liberals? Personally, I consider Anarchy neither left nor right on the political spectrum.

ANTIFA and BLM are both liberal groups. It is not about "some" rioters are something else. Liberals own these riots. Lock, stock, and barrel.

Liberals are also far less likely to blanket condemn them. Excuses like "they are frustrated!" to excuse looting a Target.

Quote: AZDuffman

ANTIFA and BLM are both liberal groups. It is not about "some" rioters are something else. Liberals own these riots. Lock, stock, and barrel.

Liberals are also far less likely to blanket condemn them. Excuses like "they are frustrated!" to excuse looting a Target.

"ANTIFA," is not a 'group' in any organized sense of the word. There's no centralized structure, though I will stipulate that there are some people who self-define as ANTIFA. Not all ANTIFA describers are Anarchists and not all Anarchists are ANTIFA. I'm just saying that actual Anarchists I would not put on the political spectrum; the entire underlying goal is for an apolitical existence.

I don't know why anyone would, "Blanket condemn," anybody else. The only people I would condemn are the individuals who are actually doing the rioting and the looting. I seriously doubt that every single person in BLM has rioted, looted, instigated riot or done anything associated with rioting or looting.

Quote: Mission146

"ANTIFA," is not a 'group' in any organized sense of the word. There's no centralized structure, though I will stipulate that there are some people who self-define as ANTIFA. Not all ANTIFA describers are Anarchists and not all Anarchists are ANTIFA. I'm just saying that actual Anarchists I would not put on the political spectrum; the entire underlying goal is for an apolitical existence.

It might not have the structure of a classic group, but it is a group aligned along leftist cause nonetheless. It sure gets members for a riot when it needs them, so I will call it a "group" based on that.

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I don't know why anyone would, "Blanket condemn," anybody else. The only people I would condemn are the individuals who are actually doing the rioting and the looting. I seriously doubt that every single person in BLM has rioted, looted, instigated riot or done anything associated with rioting or looting.

*sigh* Nobody says "every single member." Point is BLM is a racist, violent group causing rioting and looting. But so many will not condemn the looters. It goes deep. In some previous riot, Baltimore maybe, a black guy I used to work with refused to condemn the looters. He said, "they're frustrated!" This is a white-collar guy. He is not the only one. He de-friended me on FB which is just as well because he would be posting his hate all over my feed.

Remember when the left went nuts because Trump would not condemn a group who had a peaceful, permitted demonstration? Now their side riots and loots and they are silent, except when they are excusing it.