The Coronavirus thread

Quote: AZDuffman

Fine by me. Stay at home so you have no chance of being near me or anyone else did not take the vax.

That's a moronic comment given the fact most of us cannot stay at home, we need to work and otherwise engage in the outside world.

Why won't you just swallow your silly pride and get vaccinated, wear a mask, and maintain social distance?

Quote: missedhervee

That's a moronic comment given the fact most of us cannot stay at home, we need to work and otherwise engage in the outside world.

Why won't you just swallow your silly pride and get vaccinated, wear a mask, and maintain social distance?

Because I do not trust the untested vaccine. The masks are silly and do nothing. I am not the one afraid of catching something so why should I have to cater to you and yours? I need to work and engage with the outside world same as anyone else.

Quote: missedhervee

Why won't you just swallow your silly pride and get vaccinated, wear a mask, and maintain social distance?

Maybe he already has.

Lots of vocal anti-vaxxers have actually gotten the shot, especially if they are employed. They just like the attention.

Quote: AZDuffman

Because I do not trust the untested vaccine. The masks are silly and do nothing.

8.5 billion doses have been administered to 4.3 billion people. They've been tested.

Trying to stop a virus with a mask is like trying to stop the wind with a screen. But they have a synergistic effect. The more people that wear them, the less chance for microbes to be transmitted. The seasonal flu has been nearly non-existent for the past two years. There were only 700 influenza deaths in the US during the 2020-21 season. There were 22,000 in the season before that, and 34,000 before that.

Unvaccinated 30 yr old dies at home, from Covid. His father is on respirator.

Quote: Tanko

8.5 billion doses have been administered to 4.3 billion people. They've been tested.

Administering doses is not testing. The 4.3 billion people are the testers.

Quote: Tanko

The seasonal flu has been nearly non-existent for the past two years. There were only 700 influenza deaths in the US during the 2020-21 season. There were 22,000 in the season before that, and 34,000 before that.

I am sure masking has a little impact on the low flu numbers, especially in medical settings where patients come in for treatment of the flu, but the bigger reason probably has a lot to do with us just staying away from each other, schools being closed, work shutdowns/working virtually, etc.

Many of us have changed the way we live to make as little contact as necessary with other people and limiting the times we are with a bunch of people in an enclosed area.

Quote: RonC

I am sure masking has a little impact on the low flu numbers, especially in medical settings where patients come in for treatment of the flu, but the bigger reason probably has a lot to do with us just staying away from each other, schools being closed, work shutdowns/working virtually, etc.

Many of us have changed the way we live to make as little contact as necessary with other people and limiting the times we are with a bunch of people in an enclosed area.

The reason is that flu deaths have never been determined by a test. If you arrived at the hospital with flu like systems and died from complications that effected your breathing and lungs it was counted as a flu death. An algorithm was then used nationally on the data that was posted by the larger hospitals to arrive at a national number. There was never a hard count of flu deaths.

If you arrive at hospital with flu like symptoms and die of lung issues now, how do you think your death is recorded since Covid began?

Quote: kenarman

The reason is that flu deaths have never been determined by a test. If you arrived at the hospital with flu like systems and died from complications that effected your breathing and lungs it was counted as a flu death. An algorithm was then used nationally on the data that was posted by the larger hospitals to arrive at a national number. There was never a hard count of flu deaths.

If you arrive at hospital with flu like symptoms and die of lung issues now, how do you think your death is recorded since Covid began?

I don't think that's correct. I believe they always want to know what if any an infectious disease a patient has. It has to do with both hospital personnel exposed to that person and other patients and where they put that person. Other patients can be infected from an infectious person, who are in the hospital for other reasons.

Also some infections can be bacterial and treated with antibiotics. You can't treat someone very well if you don't know what they have.

Quote: rxwine

I don't think that's correct. I believe they always want to know what if any an infectious disease a patient has. It has to do with both hospital personnel exposed to that person and other patients and where they put that person. Other patients can be infected from an infectious person, who are in the hospital for other reasons.

Also some infections can be bacterial and treated with antibiotics. You can't treat someone very well if you don't know what they have.

Do your research and come back to me. I did mine.

Quote: kenarman

Do your research and come back to me. I did mine.

I googled this without being able to prove what you said.

"if you die of lung disease do they test for infection?"

What would you suggest to try instead?