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December 9th, 2020 at 8:03:03 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
You do understand if it was solely up to Trump we would already have millions vaccinated, right?


1. If it had been solely up to Trump he would have dismissed the whole thing even longer.

2. If it was solely up to Trump, we'd still be trying to kill it with malaria pills.

3. If it was solely up to Trump, he love that because he would be a dictator.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
December 9th, 2020 at 8:28:43 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: rxwine
1. If it had been solely up to Trump he would have dismissed the whole thing even longer.

2. If it was solely up to Trump, we'd still be trying to kill it with malaria pills.

3. If it was solely up to Trump, he love that because he would be a dictator.


1. Patently false. Invoking the act that forced companies to make ventilators is ignoring it? Moving boats to NY to act as a stop gap hospital is ignoring it? Pushing the entire pharma industry to develop vaccines and therapeutics is ignoring it? Stopping travel from the largest country in the world was ignoring it? Obviously a troll post by you. Not even close to being factual. But good try.

2. You do realize that there are dozens of potential therapies that were posited to help? And it wasn’t Trump who suggested first that chloroquine could help. It was the DOCTORS that were prescribing them!

3. Can’t argue with you here. If he was offered the power of a dictator, he would take it but in his mind he would think it is good for the country.

Summary.... the vaccines will save lives. If approved today they would save more lives than if approved next week. FACT.
December 9th, 2020 at 9:08:54 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
1. Patently false. Invoking the act that forced companies to make ventilators is ignoring it? Moving boats to NY to act as a stop gap hospital is ignoring it? Pushing the entire pharma industry to develop vaccines and therapeutics is ignoring it? Stopping travel from the largest country in the world was ignoring it? Obviously a troll post by you. Not even close to being factual. But good try.

Do I really need the link the recording of Trump saying it was going away soon? And which of our last many Presidents would have blurted out such nonsense in the first place?
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2. You do realize that there are dozens of potential therapies that were posited to help? And it wasn’t Trump who suggested first that chloroquine could help. It was the DOCTORS that were prescribing them!


And he went on contradicting his own medical advisors on that for some time afterwards. Stop remembering that Trump manure as a sweet smell.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
December 9th, 2020 at 11:03:00 AM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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I wear my masks any time I leave the house. They may be only 44% effective, but when more people wear them, the synergistic effect can reduce the rate of transmission.

Guy I know tested positive for the virus in July, and was asymptomatic. He continues to wear his mask, but he admits he touches it often, stuffs it in his pocket and tosses it on the car passenger seat. A petri dish strapped to his mouth. Two weeks ago, he was hospitalized for a severe strep infection in his throat. Saw him yesterday. He still has the Coronavirus antibodies, but doctors told him his mask was the likely cause of his strep infection.
December 9th, 2020 at 11:07:26 AM permalink
JimRockford
Member since: Sep 18, 2015
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Quote: SOOPOO
You do understand if it was solely up to Trump we would already have millions vaccinated, right? It is specifically because of the ‘red tape’ that the FDA uses that we are slower. ‘Red tape’ of course has a negative perception.

The more stringent requirements were lauded when thalidomide was NOT approved in the USA after being approved in the UK.

There are pluses and minuses in ‘rapid’ approval of a vaccine.
It's not so much the stringency of the requirements and the rigor of the process, it's the pace. I've been hearing since Monday that the review committee will meet on Thursday to review the FDA recommendations. Why not yesterday, what are they doing that is more important?
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
December 9th, 2020 at 11:11:51 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tanko
I wear my masks any time I leave the house. They may be only 44% effective, but when more people wear them, the synergistic effect can reduce the rate of transmission.

Guy I know tested positive for the virus in July, and was asymptomatic. He continues to wear his mask, but he admits he touches it often, stuffs it in his pocket and tosses it on the car passenger seat. A petri dish strapped to his mouth. Two weeks ago, he was hospitalized for a severe strep infection in his throat. Saw him yesterday. He still has the Coronavirus antibodies, but doctors told him his mask was the likely cause of his strep infection.


Unless you keep wearing the same underwear all week, not sure why anyone would keep wearing the same mask so long and expect good results.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
December 9th, 2020 at 11:22:21 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: Tanko
I wear my masks any time I leave the house. They may be only 44% effective, but when more people wear them, the synergistic effect can reduce the rate of transmission.


How often to you change your mask
I change mine every day. I always have sanitizer with me. Wear surgical gloves when grocery shopping. Its dangerous out there. This ain't safe Taiwan, this is dangerous virus ridden USAI
I think they are very effective if EVERYBODY wears them
Taiwan 7 deaths proves countries can beat the virus if everybody is on the same page
7 deaths out of 23 million people
Thats a civilized country that cares about the elderly and takes measures to insure a growing economy with concerts and people safely eating in restaurants.
I'm hungry
I could go across the street for the Longhorn casino breakfast special they advertise on their billboard but way too dangerous
Probably get Mcdonalds takeout from the drive thru
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:53:05 AM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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SOOPOO, quit trying to bring rationalization and common sense to this thread. These people just want to spew garbage.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
December 9th, 2020 at 2:09:23 PM permalink
Tripdufan
Member since: Oct 3, 2019
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Trump didn't stop travel from China. So sick of people saying that. 40,000 people came here from China after the "ban". And we weren't the first country to do it either.
December 9th, 2020 at 3:16:40 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tripdufan
Trump didn't stop travel from China. So sick of people saying that. 40,000 people came here from China after the "ban". And we weren't the first country to do it either.


He did stop travel from China for other than US citizens. Where is your source?
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