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Poll

	Under 5000		2 votes (13.33%)
	5000 to 10,000		2 votes (13.33%)
	10,000 to 25,000		2 votes (13.33%)
	25,000 to 100,000		1 vote (6.66%)
	100,000 to 1 million		2 votes (13.33%)
	1 to 10 million		4 votes (26.66%)
	10 to 100 million		No votes (0%)
	100 million to 1 billion		No votes (0%)
	over 1 billion		1 vote (6.66%)
	I'm a bigot.		1 vote (6.66%)

15 members have voted

September 22nd, 2020 at 5:39:35 AM permalink

AZDuffman

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Mission146
I'd probably give him a, "C," or thereabouts. There's only so much, "Handling," one can do. The only thing I think he could have done better is maybe take it more seriously (publicly) and have the Federal Government give more direct guidance. He also should have strongly stressed the masks (after the hospital shortage was over) from day one; particularly to his supporters.

It's amazing how snowflakey some of the people on the right are about the mask-wearing. That doesn't mean I think there should be mask mandates or maximum occupancy (except...maybe very large indoor gatherings) mandates, but that the recommendations should have been made for individuals (and businesses) to do of their own accord.

I can't tell you how many people in nearby West Virginia at least claimed things like, "I'm not going to go to Store XYZ again because they're making people wear the masks and it's not the law." I guess they at least get how free association works.

Except, now it is kind of a mandate in places where social distancing cannot be maintained.

Being a Libertarian, I'm all about personal choice, but that doesn't change the fact that some people (many of them Trump supporters) are idiots.

It is because we dislike the masks and see no benefit to them. We are not talking being in a medical facility. We are talking people thinking a piece of cloth is a be all end all that will solve things. They are not.

IMHO it also comes down to the mask believers like to sort of "show they are following the rules" and "doing something" even if "something" is effectively nothing. They are the same people who proudly wear ribbons for whatever the cause is.

The President is a fink.

September 22nd, 2020 at 10:12:20 AM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18816	Quote: AZDuffman Deaths from the virus alone less than 20,000. Great idea for a Biden ad. “Trump says only 20,000 healthy people died from Corona virus. And the other 180,000 with pre-existing conditions don’t matter.” You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

September 22nd, 2020 at 11:00:53 AM permalink

rxwine

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 189
Posts: 18816

Quote: Mission146
I'd probably give him a, "C," or thereabouts. There's only so much, "Handling," one can do. The only thing I think he could have done better is maybe take it more seriously (publicly) and have the Federal Government give more direct guidance. He also should have strongly stressed the masks (after the hospital shortage was over) from day one; particularly to his supporters.

It's amazing how snowflakey some of the people on the right are about the mask-wearing. That doesn't mean I think there should be mask mandates or maximum occupancy (except...maybe very large indoor gatherings) mandates, but that the recommendations should have been made for individuals (and businesses) to do of their own accord.

I can't tell you how many people in nearby West Virginia at least claimed things like, "I'm not going to go to Store XYZ again because they're making people wear the masks and it's not the law." I guess they at least get how free association works.

Except, now it is kind of a mandate in places where social distancing cannot be maintained.

Being a Libertarian, I'm all about personal choice, but that doesn't change the fact that some people (many of them Trump supporters) are idiots.

He really doesn’t even deserve a C. For instance Biden is giving the same unified message to his supporters or non-supporters about coronavirus. Trump caters to his supporters not taking the virus as seriously. You don’t skew a serious public heath message. That’s completely irresponsible.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

September 22nd, 2020 at 1:01:54 PM permalink

AZDuffman

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 18255

Quote: rxwine

He really doesn’t even deserve a C. For instance Biden is giving the same unified message to his supporters or non-supporters about coronavirus. Trump caters to his supporters not taking the virus as seriously. You don’t skew a serious public heath message. That’s completely irresponsible.

What message has Biden given? Other than looking silly with 6 reporters sitting in circles at a PC.

The President is a fink.

September 22nd, 2020 at 3:30:41 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013	Quote: AZDuffman What message has Biden given? His whole platform is he won't desert us and we'll be safe if he's president. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

September 22nd, 2020 at 3:56:46 PM permalink
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18255	Quote: Evenbob His whole platform is he won't desert us and we'll be safe if he's president. How? The President is a fink.

September 22nd, 2020 at 8:59:35 PM permalink

Shrek

Member since: Aug 13, 2019
Threads: 6
Posts: 1635

Quote: AZDuffman
Deaths from the virus alone less than 20,000.

+100

There are approximately 330 million people in the US.
20,000 is waaaaaaaay less than 1% of the population, so Trump deserves an A++ for his handling of the virus. 👍

Quote: AZDuffman
IMHO it also comes down to the mask believers like to sort of "show they are following the rules" and "doing something" even if "something" is effectively nothing. They are the same people who proudly wear ribbons for whatever the cause is.

+100

Exactly. Libbies who proudly wear their masks and shame others for not doing so are basically showing the world that they are proud to be government bootlickers. 🙄

September 22nd, 2020 at 11:55:55 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013	Quote: AZDuffman How? He never has any details attached to his platitudes. He has no idea, he's just saying what he's told to say. He was the worst do nothing Senator, the worst do nothing except make himself and his fam rich VP. Why anybody in their right mind would want him president is a mystery. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

September 23rd, 2020 at 3:49:45 AM permalink

Mission146

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Quote: AZDuffman

It is because we dislike the masks and see no benefit to them. We are not talking being in a medical facility. We are talking people thinking a piece of cloth is a be all end all that will solve things. They are not.

IMHO it also comes down to the mask believers like to sort of "show they are following the rules" and "doing something" even if "something" is effectively nothing. They are the same people who proudly wear ribbons for whatever the cause is.

The masks accomplish more than nothing. I agree that they are not THE end all and be all solution. I believe that many people (but perhaps not all) wear them because science has demonstrated that they curtail the spread of the virus should you happen to have it. They don't do much to prevent you from getting it (aside from to the extent that someone carrying the virus might be wearing one).

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman

September 23rd, 2020 at 3:51:36 AM permalink

Mission146

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Quote: rxwine

He really doesn’t even deserve a C. For instance Biden is giving the same unified message to his supporters or non-supporters about coronavirus. Trump caters to his supporters not taking the virus as seriously. You don’t skew a serious public heath message. That’s completely irresponsible.

I don't think he outwardly called the masks stupid, or anything. When it comes to Trump and public relations, I set an extremely low bar, so that 'C' is on a curve.

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman

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