The Gay Thread

Quote: AZDuffman

Trump hateful? You are delusional. Have you not seen video of Kamala?

Anyhow, the thing is while some people may be in favor of gay rights and lean pro-choice, they are usually not their top issue. Ever notice that the one who talks the most about abortion usually loses? Doesn't matter the side, they tend to lose. Candidates promising more abortions get the crazy cat-lady vote. But it turns off more people that it gains. Likewise, when it comes to gay rights most people do not want to see a return to 1960s bath house raids, but they know gays have their rights. So their attitude is "move on to the next thing."

Watch the video, the current gay movement is not about "rights" it is about attention-whoring their Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyles.

Do you support over turning the Obergfell decision? Do you support overturning the Bostick decision?

Quote: GenoDRPh

Do you support over turning the Obergfell decision? Do you support overturning the Bostick decision?

Yes, I believe marriage is supposed to be one male and one female.

Partially. You should not be able do discriminate. You should be able to fire if their identity and actions are becoming disruptive.

Quote: AZDuffman

Yes, I believe marriage is supposed to be one male and one female.

I believe that is historically true, but what does "supposed to be" really mean? I believe most of that was speculated because of religious beliefs, obviously the U.S. is a secular nation so it wouldn't make sense in the U.S.

Quote: DRich

I believe that is historically true, but what does "supposed to be" really mean? I believe most of that was speculated because of religious beliefs, obviously the U.S. is a secular nation so it wouldn't make sense in the U.S.

Nothing to do with religion. It is about science and biology.

Quote: AZDuffman

Nothing to do with religion. It is about science and biology.

Well, if it’s about a lifetime commitment for two people who love each other, then gay marriage makes as much sense as heterosexual marriage. We don’t force heterosexual couples to make babies. We don’t prevent sterile people from marrying. Churches can choose to not recognize gay marriage. Our government shouldn’t.

15 years ago I was technically against ‘gay marriage’, but I came to realize I was just trapped by semantics. I STARTED with a definition that marriage was between a man and a woman. When I changed my definition to ‘marriage is between two people who love each other’ it became easy.

A country can fail if allowing abortion & gay marriage and the country's population drops.

Personal rights are supreme relative to a country's rights, unless the country's population drops.

If the population grows organically, no issue.


The reason is, there's a finite supply of persons on Earth.

Eventually, all populations can drop and there can be no more immigrant potential to compensate.


So might as well nip it in the bud if the population isn't growing organically.

Quote: DoubleGold

A country can fail if allowing abortion & gay marriage and the country's population drops.

Personal rights are supreme relative to a country's rights, unless the country's population drops.

If the population grows organically, no issue.


The reason is, there's a finite supply of persons on Earth.

Eventually, all populations can drop and there can be no more immigrant potential to compensate.

Your argument assumes that humanity is even WORTH saving...

The bottom line is, if abortion & gay marriage are allowed, the country will fail.

So it comes down to being patriotic (things like social security, personal security, economic prosperity, etc.) or for the personal right of murdering other humans and/or being a homo.


Religion is designed for a population to survive.

The opposite is also true.


That's why Democrats & Communists are called death cults.

They inherently want misery.


And if you show someone mathematically on the far left, they can't see it or don't care.

A person that calls themselves a patriot and are for abortion and/or gay marriage are confused.


If a congress person is confused, they are against the country and should not be in office.

And certainly a President that's not a patriot shouldn't have been elected and possibly stolen.


A President that's for abortion and gay marriage is likely a Communist in disguise.

Quote: DoubleGold

Religion is designed for a population to survive.

To a degree, but only as a means to an end.

The purpose of religion is to exert mind control over people, to attract and keep them in the fold.

Some, like the Mormons, actually provide a service, i.e. providing aid and succor to members during time of need but it will cost you: you tithe ten percent of your income.

But the Catholics...a faith I was raised in and rejected as a youth...are predatory mind-fuckers who guilt-trip members and instill fear: not good.

Religions need new members in order to keep their Big Con Game going: it ain't altruism, it's predation.

Quote: missedhervee

To a degree, but only as a means to an end.

The purpose of religion is to exert mind control over people, to attract and keep them in the fold.

Some, like the Mormons, actually provide a service, i.e. providing aid and succor to members during time of need but it will cost you: you tithe ten percent of your income.

But the Catholics...a faith I was raised in and rejected as a youth...are predatory mind-fuckers who guilt-trip members and instill fear: not good.

Religions need new members in order to keep their Big Con Game going: it ain't altruism, it's predation.

I’ve no idea why the all powerful employer has us paying his employees when he is all powerful.