Internet screwing
August 4th, 2018 at 8:59:09 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | AT&T still chargers Asymmetric digital subscriber line (ADSL_ customers $60 a month for access to a service that varies between 6Mbps and 10Mbps down, the report notes. ADSL can be delivered over plain old telephone copper wires that have existed largely since before WWII. Verizon charges its ADSL customers $63 or $64 a month. AT&T’s cable offering costs $60 per month for speeds upwards of 50Mbps. Verizon's 100Mbps fiber service is $65 a month. Netflix recommends 5.0 Megabits per second for HD quality, but 25 Megabits per second for Ultra HD quality. The problem is largely one of the 4 people who live in urban areas for every 1 person who lives in a rural area. AT&T and Verizon have no incentive to upgage from ADSL because they are already charging the same amount of money. In urban areas they have to upgrade or they will lose all their business to competitors. Do we need a Tennessee Valley Authority for ISPs. |
August 5th, 2018 at 4:44:02 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
It has been discussed. We had phone taxes to wire schools, I remember in the 1990s when wireless providers wanted to line-item it and the Clinton WH tried to stop them so people did not "see" the taxes on their wireless bill. The numbers are hard. I take daily walks about town and look at how many houses we have here and wonder if it would be possible to compete with Comcast. Numbers wise it is tough. For rural areas I think some kind of wireless repeaters are the answer. The President is a fink. |
August 5th, 2018 at 4:52:58 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/21/17598418/facebook-athena-internet-satellite-project-fcc Both Facebook and Google have shut down their drone project in favor of satellites. You would think that compared to water, electricity, highways, and even phone lines given the technology of the day, high speed internet would be relatively easy. It's amazing how difficult infrastructure projects are post WWII compared to pre WWII. |
August 5th, 2018 at 5:43:38 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Couple of my favorites: It took twice as long to build the Hoover Dam bypass bridge than to build the damn dam! We could have fought WWII *THREE TIMES* in the time it took to rebuild the WTC site. But it is not just post WWII. We went from next to nothing in the space race to the moon in just over 8 years. Last Space Shuttle launch was 7 years ago and we are still paying the Russians to send stuff to the space station. The USA simply cannot get things done anymore. The President is a fink. |
August 5th, 2018 at 2:33:34 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Is it the same problem in Europe as well? On 14 November 1994 the Channel Tunnel opened for passenger service. The LGV Nord, a French 207 mile-long high-speed rail line, opened in 1993, after 9 years of construction, that connects Paris to the Belgian border and the Channel Tunnel via Lille. The link from Lille to the Channel Tunnel is roughly 60 miles.The 67 mile high-speed railway between London and Channel Tunnel took another 13 years to build at a cost of £11 billion or £80 million per mile. It does seem that the French moved much faster on this critical infrastructure project. From the outside it looks like the Chinese infrastructure projects get done very quickly, but I thought that personal property rights were much easier to overturn in China. |
August 5th, 2018 at 3:02:59 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Shoddy materials and workmanship always get done faster. The old USSR could throw up an apartment complex in 6 weeks. 10 years later it was falling apart, literally. The plumbing leaks, the wiring was bad, ceiling plaster falling down, outside facade crumbling. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 6th, 2018 at 11:55:31 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I think even the new visitor center took longer to build, going way over budget, than the dam. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
August 6th, 2018 at 4:15:43 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 | Getting back to internet, has anyone else been frustrated recently? I've been paying attention to the Net Neutrality hoopla, and I can say with no sort of "look for it and you'll find it" lingering nonsense that my service has absolutely tanked within the last 6 weeks. I'm sure you can find old quotes of mine complaining that I only get 3 of the 30mbps I pay for, but as I can have three Xboxes online while streaming Netflix without hiccups, I'm not too concerned. Well, now NFlix hiccups every 10 minutes, games are getting kicked, stuff that is certainly real and not my imagination. Is it just me experiencing this? I ask partly because, and I dunno if you heard, but NYS is kicked the whole of Spectrum tf out of the state. Don't really know the details or how in the hell they're gonna replace the only freaking carrier many of us have, but I thought perhaps the poor service is the result of faults that aren't being cleared because they've no reason to care anymore. Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
August 6th, 2018 at 4:18:48 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Have not noticed any decline or change at all. Remember, NN was only around a short time. Now, NYS has been gumming the simple up forever. The President is a fink. |
August 6th, 2018 at 6:19:46 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I saw an article recently. I don't know what you pay for cellular + internet + TV, but this new AT&T deal for $70 a month minimum which includes 33 channels might be a decent deal. You can get more channels for more money .The idea is to completely disconnect your cable at home (for television, telephone and internet) and just use the phone. You would have to pay $80 a month to include 15 GB of hotspot data to power your laptop. You need an MHL HDMI connection to expand your phone contents to a bigger TV at home.
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