rest in peace Koko, age 46

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June 22nd, 2018 at 12:25:44 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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June 22nd, 2018 at 3:56:57 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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The President is a fink.
June 22nd, 2018 at 6:48:02 PM permalink
Wizard
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RIP coco. On a former WoV trivia challenge I asked about his/her name.
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June 22nd, 2018 at 8:07:35 PM permalink
Dalex64
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I read an amusing story about Koko.

Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it!
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
June 22nd, 2018 at 11:45:51 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Dalex64
I read an amusing story about Koko.

Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it!


https://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar
That was in a Ted talk about an epedemic of liars
June 23rd, 2018 at 5:49:50 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Dalex64
When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it!
Deception is quite common in nature. Did you think it only took place in single's bars or advertising?
June 23rd, 2018 at 1:21:29 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Dalex64
I read an amusing story about Koko.

Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it!


That was good. I don’t want to watch the whole talk but any truth to it?
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
June 23rd, 2018 at 1:49:43 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
That was good. I don’t want to watch the whole talk but any truth to it?


I think the story got embellished over the last few decades. Originally it was reported that Koko blamed a young woman.

Quote: National Geographic- October 1978
At about the age of 5 Koko discovered the value of the lie to get herself out of a jam. After numerous repeat performances I'm convinced that Koko really is lying in these circumstances and not merely making mistakes. One of her first lies also involved the reconstruction of an earlier happening. My assistant Kate Mann was with Koko, then tipping the scales at 90 pounds, when the gorilla plumped down on the kitchen sink in the trailer and it separated from its frame and dropped out of alignment. Later, when I asked Koko if she broke the sink, she signed, “Kate there bad,” pointing to the sink. Koko wouldn't know, of course, that I would never accept the idea that Kate would go around breaking sinks.
Koko met Mr Rogers 20 years ago.
June 23rd, 2018 at 2:56:22 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Even house cats lie. So what?
As I said, its not just men and women in singles bars or Madison Avenue copywriters or journalists.
June 23rd, 2018 at 3:15:05 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Pacomartin
https://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar
That was in a Ted talk about an epedemic of liars
Interesting link
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
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