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June 22nd, 2018 at 12:25:44 AM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569

June 22nd, 2018 at 3:56:57 AM permalink
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195	War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

June 22nd, 2018 at 6:48:02 PM permalink
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 241 Posts: 6108	RIP coco. On a former WoV trivia challenge I asked about his/her name. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber

June 22nd, 2018 at 8:07:35 PM permalink
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687	I read an amusing story about Koko. Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it! "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

June 22nd, 2018 at 11:45:51 PM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569	Quote: Dalex64 I read an amusing story about Koko. Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it! https://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar That was in a Ted talk about an epedemic of liars

June 23rd, 2018 at 5:49:50 AM permalink
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831	Quote: Dalex64 When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it! Deception is quite common in nature. Did you think it only took place in single's bars or advertising?

June 23rd, 2018 at 1:21:29 PM permalink
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 241 Posts: 6108	Quote: Dalex64 I read an amusing story about Koko. Apparently she damaged or destroyed a sink in her enclosure. When asked what happened, she said the kitten did it! That was good. I don’t want to watch the whole talk but any truth to it? Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber

June 23rd, 2018 at 1:49:43 PM permalink

Pacomartin

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Quote: Wizard
That was good. I don’t want to watch the whole talk but any truth to it?

I think the story got embellished over the last few decades. Originally it was reported that Koko blamed a young woman.

Quote: National Geographic- October 1978
At about the age of 5 Koko discovered the value of the lie to get herself out of a jam. After numerous repeat performances I'm convinced that Koko really is lying in these circumstances and not merely making mistakes. One of her first lies also involved the reconstruction of an earlier happening. My assistant Kate Mann was with Koko, then tipping the scales at 90 pounds, when the gorilla plumped down on the kitchen sink in the trailer and it separated from its frame and dropped out of alignment. Later, when I asked Koko if she broke the sink, she signed, “Kate there bad,” pointing to the sink. Koko wouldn't know, of course, that I would never accept the idea that Kate would go around breaking sinks.

Koko met Mr Rogers 20 years ago.

June 23rd, 2018 at 2:56:22 PM permalink
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831	Even house cats lie. So what? As I said, its not just men and women in singles bars or Madison Avenue copywriters or journalists.

June 23rd, 2018 at 3:15:05 PM permalink
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227	Quote: Pacomartin https://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar That was in a Ted talk about an epedemic of liars Interesting link The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW

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