Mexico Mission Trip
March 26th, 2018 at 4:39:47 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Interesting question and not sure if I have an answer. Because the people don't see priests terribly often the appreciate the Sacraments and things like blessings a whole lot. I didn't get a sense if they were more or less strict. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
March 26th, 2018 at 4:52:50 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | According to this infographic, Mexico is second only to Paraguay in Latin America by percentage of people who identify as Catholic (in 2014).
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March 26th, 2018 at 5:12:36 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | If no Mexicans want to come here, as FrG claims, where did the 7 million illegal Mexicans in this country come from. Does he have a theory? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 27th, 2018 at 3:39:29 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Can you embellish a little? When you day they don't see priests, do they have a regular Sunday Mass? I suppose a layperson could fill in the gaps, I have seen them do readings and I have even seen a Deacon do the Gospel/Homily (is a Deacon a layperson?) Could even handle Communion (not Consecration, but laypeople deliver to the bedridden for example.) Do they just have fewer priests who travel a small area? As to "strict" I guess I mean would they more resemble an Irish or Italian Catholic family of the 50s/60s more than today's Catholic? The President is a fink. |
March 27th, 2018 at 7:15:54 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Median Age has a strong correlation to emigration. CIA World Factbook Median Ages Guatemala total: 22.1 years Belize total: 22.7 years Honduras total: 23 years Haiti total: 23 years Bolivia total: 24.3 years Nicaragua total: 25.7 years El Salvador total: 27.1 years Ecuador total: 27.7 years Mexico total: 28.3 years Panama total: 29.2 years Colombia total: 30 years World total: 30.4 years Costa Rica total: 31.3 years United States total: 38.1 years Cuba total: 41.5 years Puerto Rico total: 41.5 years Japan total: 47.3 years (oldest people in the world) I think what he said was "not every Mexican wants to come to the US". There are over 130 million people in Mexico at an median age of 27.9 . But only as recently as 1990 the median age in Mexico was 19.5, and the growth rate in Mexico is now half of what it was in 1980. The peak years of Mexican immigration to the US were in the 1980s and 1990s. The median age of the US was 28.4 in 1970. Now, many Central Americans do try to immigrate to the US illegally by travelling through Mexico on buses. Guatemalans and hondurans are much younger than Mexicans and have less opportunity. |
March 27th, 2018 at 9:20:56 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | I would wonder about the slums in the mountains surrounding a city in Brazil. The wealthy live in the city and have wealthy churches. The Church has some presence in the slums but not much. There is certainly an affiliation with the Catholic church but all government is by and for the drug cartels. Sanitation, such as it is, is by the drug lords, immunizations are often by nurses kidnapped from the city and brought forcibly to the slums for a few days, yet such immunizations will take place with the overt cooperation of the local priest. Is the affiliation with the church or the drug lord? is there a difference that is perceived by the local populace? |
March 27th, 2018 at 9:31:29 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Perhaps we should all recall Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field wherein the Catholic Church was located in the back of a pickup truck as the priest 'rode circuit' holding services at wide spots in the road. Were the people any less or any more religious than those who attended the posh St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC? |
March 27th, 2018 at 10:32:48 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
They do not have priests for the Sunday Mass usually in the ranchos. Maybe once or twice a year in some places a priest will get there. A lay person will do a communion service in most cases. A deacon is an ordained minister but he cannot celebrate Mass. I really don't know about the strictness; the good statsPaco posted are usually not taken from the rural areas I was in so maybe your 50s Italian family analogy is right. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
March 27th, 2018 at 11:26:58 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | I would have trouble gauging the beliefs of a group of people just by talking with them. Looking at a survey, I had no idea that JWs were so opposed to same sex marriage, or that Buddhists were so in favor of it. Views about same-sex marriage by religious group Strongly favor/favor Religious tradition- Oppose/strongly oppose Don't know Sample Size 84% Buddhist 13% 3% 264 78% Unaffiliated (religious "nones") 16% 6% 7,556 77% Jewish 18% 5% 847 68% Hindu 23% 9% 199 57% Mainline Protestant 35% 8% 6,083 57% Catholic 34% 9% 7,202 54% Orthodox Christian 41% 5% 186 42% Muslim 52% 6% 237 40% Historically Black Protestant 52% 9% 1,916 28% Evangelical Protestant 64% 7% 8,593 26% Mormon 68% 6% 664 14% Jehovah's Witness 76% 10% 245 http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/ |
March 27th, 2018 at 11:52:07 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
It's not possible. They will tell you what they think you want to hear. FrG is an American authority figure, so of course they tell him how happy they are in their native land. They think he would be thrilled to hear that, and right they were. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |