Happy All Hallows Eve

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charlatans like FrG

I'm in a moderator mood tonight. Bob? PERSONAL INSULT. SEE YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK!

Won't take long for a greenie to get you!

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I'm in a moderator mood tonight. Bob? PERSONAL INSULT.

Really? You can prove that priests
actually get rid of real demons?
You should collect The Amazing
Randi's $1 Million dollar prize
for proving the supernatural exists.
With no proof, all such claims are
made by charlatans.

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When you're the decor director for a national box store.

Wrong.

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When I come to power, they will be among the first of the purged.

very wrong.

They'll all kneel before Amazod :)

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Ugh. For me, Halloween basically means I'm stuck indoors all evening so I don't accidentally run over a small child with my car while I'm out and about.

Now there is Trunk or Treat, wherein ghoulish displays are set up in a car trunk and all these parents who think those razor blades in apples stories are true park their cars in a lot and let the kids get safe candy.

Didn't Guy Fawkes select All Souls Day for his plot? If so, lets celebrate it for that reason. "A penny for the guy".

The best exorcism of the supernatural was performed by a maintenance man in Silicon Valley. All the highly educated electronics experts were unable to get a computer to work properly but he noticed there was a screw shorting out a board so he declared the computer was possessed of the devil and the evil spirit had to be exorcized. As he called upon the evil spirit to leave in the name of Jesus, he slapped the side of the machine just about where that circuit board was located, the screw fell into the computer's innards and the board starting working thus dumbfounding all the high trained experts.

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Padre, how about a little commentary on what ASD is about. And All Souls Day the next?

All Saints Day is a festival of what is often called the Church Triumphant. This is our brothers and sisters who have made it to our ultimate destiny - perfect joy and eternal happiness with God in Heaven. They are still of course connected to us and encouraging us by their example and their prayers. it is a joyous day of our future glory when hopefully we will join them.

All Souls Day is a day to remember what is often called the Church Suffering. This is a day to remember all the souls who have died and are being made perfect to enter Heaven through purgatory. We are still very much connected to them and they benefit from our prayers and sacrifices. It is a less joyous and more somber day than All Saints Day, but it still celebrates the mercy of God and the fact that all those souls in purgatory are getting ready to join the saints in Heaven.

By the way the third group of the Church is often traditionally called the Church Militant. This is all of us still alive and fighting for holiness and truth. We are making our way through life as best we can with its ups and downs and with its struggles and persecution. We are always working to be part of the Church Suffering or better yet, the Church Triumphant.

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All Souls Day is a day to remember what is often called the Church Suffering. This is a day to remember all the souls who have died .

Too bad you don't have a day for
those who died at the hand of the
Church, all the while proclaiming
it was for Jesus. Just a day for the
poor women your Church burned
as witches would be nice. A day
to admit the ignorance and horror
your Church is capable of.

Quote: FrGamble

Another way to say this is to say, Happy Vigil of All Saints Day, which is what Halloween truly is.

No, it is the Celtic holiday of Samhaim as morphed over time.

Jackolanterns are derived from the practice of using root vegetables as lanterns on grave markers or in windows. Pumpkin use came later and pumpkins were used mainly for their seeds which were roasted and eaten (and are quite healthy food items).

Seeds in an apple were considered to portend the future, particularly marriage and wealth. Apples were eaten in puddings and pies, etc. and of course as juice and cider. Bobbing for floating apples or for suspended apples came well after the Celtic conversion to Christianity that was forced upon them.

Nope, the origins of Halloween, which is the Vigil of All Saints Day or All Hallow's Eve are not a baptized version of Samhaim. Even the modern secular practices surrounding Halloween don't trace themselves back to the celebration of the arrival of winter in Ireland.

Most importantly you are wrong about the conversion being forced upon anyone.

Quote: FrGamble

Nope, the origins of Halloween, which is the Vigil of All Saints Day or All Hallow's Eve are not a baptized version of Samhaim. .

In the 9th century the Church moved
All Saints Day to the same time as
Samhain to piggyback on the pagan
holiday because they couldn't compete
with it. It's what the Church did with
Christmas and Easter also, made their
holidays at the same time to override
the pagan rituals. Xtionity has nothing
original about it, everything is borrowed
or stolen. Even the virgin birth and rising
from the dead were stolen from other
religions.