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February 16th, 2018 at 7:12:13 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: beachbumbabs


You start with the small to middle fish,


Nope nope nope, that's not how special
prosecutors work. They always come out
with the heavy guns first, they don't want
them running for cover while they give their
plans away by indicting the little fish first.
They put the big whammy on the people
at the top, and go down from there. It's
the opposite of 'slowly I turn', they want
the heavy hitters nailed to a wall right away
so it flushes out the smaller fish below
them. Mueller just shot his big cannon
today and it was full of everything he
has, cow pies..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 17th, 2018 at 5:04:35 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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The only thing I know for sure is that both BBB and EB are guessing. Neither knows if Mueller is done or will be able to 'climb the ladder'. But I do know that with each charge that person's testimony is now being bought with 'if you give me Trump you don't go to jail'. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain naive. You may hope for 'independent corroboration', but I doubt the prosecutors in this case care.
February 17th, 2018 at 6:30:25 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: SOOPOO
The only thing I know for sure is that both BBB and EB are guessing. Neither knows if Mueller is done or will be able to 'climb the ladder'. But I do know that with each charge that person's testimony is now being bought with 'if you give me Trump you don't go to jail'. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain naive. You may hope for 'independent corroboration', but I doubt the prosecutors in this case care.


Lets see what Mueller has
No way would I dismiss evidence I have not seen yet like SOOPOO is doing
Soopoo doubts the prosecutors already
I want to see the evidence
I don't think anybody can really have an opinion on the prosecutors till Mueller reveals his cards

I support all investigations in Washington DC regardless of what party is in power
I simply don't trust power regardless of who or what party has power
I support ALL investigations regardless if its Ken Starr, Benghazi or Mueller
Lets see what Mueller has before condemning his investigation
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February 17th, 2018 at 8:39:28 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: terapined
Lets see what Mueller has
No way would I dismiss evidence I have not seen yet like SOOPOO is doing
Soopoo doubts the prosecutors already
I want to see the evidence
I don't think anybody can really have an opinion on the prosecutors till Mueller reveals his cards


How about compelling someone to testify WITHOUT offering them a deal? You afraid the person testifying will only say what you want if you offer him a deal? If you don't see how that giving someone a deal before they testify taints the testimony, then I can't cure your blindness.....
February 17th, 2018 at 9:52:57 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: SOOPOO
How about compelling someone to testify WITHOUT offering them a deal? You afraid the person testifying will only say what you want if you offer him a deal? If you don't see how that giving someone a deal before they testify taints the testimony, then I can't cure your blindness.....


You should be a mafia lawyer
Is John Gotti innocent in your eyes?
Lets throw out Sammy the Bulls testimony and declare Gotti innocent
I believe Joe Villachi. I read the book. A dirty person that made a deal and came clean
His testimony has the ring of truth.
So you think Joe was lying and everybody in the Mafia are boy scouts?

You condemn the evidence before its even presented
Such a closed mind. sad.
My mind is open
I want to see the evidence before I make a decision
I heard the testimony from Sammy the Bull. It had the ring of truth
Dirty people come clean and help convict dirtier people.
That's how real life works in the justice system
Without the testimony of dirty people coming clean, the jails would be empty.
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
February 17th, 2018 at 10:21:17 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
Member since: Sep 3, 2013
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Quote: SOOPOO
The only thing I know for sure is that both BBB and EB are guessing. Neither knows if Mueller is done or will be able to 'climb the ladder'. But I do know that with each charge that person's testimony is now being bought with 'if you give me Trump you don't go to jail'. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain naive. You may hope for 'independent corroboration', but I doubt the prosecutors in this case care.


No.question I'm guessing. Mueller's people are too close-mouthed for anyone to know much for sure (which I applaud). But I stand by how they are working.

There are several avenues they seem to be pursuing.

Social media infiltration and interference
Money laundering
Obstruction of justice in hindering the investigation
Collusion with Russian infiltration
Activities allowing potential blackmail or vulnerability

I would think there's an enormous amount we don't know. And a lot more investigation and indictments to come.

They also seem to be finding not just anti-HRC activity, but interference in the primaries against non-Trump Republicans, and possible collusion with the Stein campaign. Who knows how big this gets?
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February 17th, 2018 at 11:42:57 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
The only thing I know for sure is that both BBB and EB are guessing.


Not really. I've been listening to
former special prosecutors talk
about this since it started over
a year ago. They all say the same
thing, you get the evidence from
as far up the chain as you can go,
lock it in, and then pounce on the
highest in the chain first, with both
feet. Mueller runs the leakiest
investigation in special council
history, anything bad involving Trump
gets leaked by multiple sources.
We aren't hearing squat.

FBI works the same way. Secret
investigations, lock it down as far
up as you can go, then swoop in
on the highest in the chain first.
They never arrest the mail room
clerks first, it's always from the
top down. I've been hearing
this over and over for a year.

The Russian thing yesterday is
a joke, they're all laughing at
Mueller. One official said he should
have indicted a ham sandwich, at
least you could get it here to
testify.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 17th, 2018 at 11:59:18 AM permalink
petroglyph
Member since: Aug 3, 2014
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Quote: Evenbob
The Russian thing yesterday is
a joke, they're all laughing at
Mueller. One official said he should
have indicted a ham sandwich, at
least you could get it here to
testify.
Biggest witch hunt since Salem
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
February 17th, 2018 at 5:26:16 PM permalink
ams288
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Only difference is this time they've found actual witches.
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February 17th, 2018 at 5:31:28 PM permalink
petroglyph
Member since: Aug 3, 2014
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Quote: ams288
Only difference is this time they've found actual witches.
Do you think the Rooskies are out to get us?

Why would they want to? I did see they banned George Soros though. Lot of country's don't want him.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW