Fear of immigration

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June 19th, 2016 at 8:11:14 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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It seems like the fear of immigration is a worldwide trend today. It seems to be a big part of BREXIT.

Someone captured these Moroccan illegal immigrants sneaking into Melilla, a Spanish city on the African coast which Spain conquered in 1497.

June 19th, 2016 at 10:07:52 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Is sneaking the right term....?

It also goes to show even with a very short wall, people are going to get in, over and around it. Trump's wall vision is noise and puffery, which his supporters will claims is all just an analogy... but who knows really what he wants.
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June 19th, 2016 at 11:45:39 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Fear of immigrants such as syndicalists, socialists and communists is what brought us Prohibition.

At various times in our history the most hated immigrants were: Irish, Portugese, blacks, Ukrainians.

The only thing that ever sealed the US Mexico border was The Great Depression and even then it was most definitely not a perfect seal.

During the Depression young men could cross the Canadian Border only if they did so with their thumbs up
June 19th, 2016 at 12:15:18 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: TheCesspit
It also goes to show even with a very short wall, people are going to get in, over and around it.


Walls provide brilliant photo ops. I remember this one, even though I was age 4 when it first appeared.
June 19th, 2016 at 5:12:05 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin
It seems like the fear of immigration is a worldwide trend today. It seems to be a big part of BREXIT.


There is a difference between immigration and "invasion." Sneaking over borders is invasion, not immigration. Unless you are willing to say that me doing a B&E to your home is just a visit.

I hope Brexit passes. Why would the Brits would want to keep being part of the mess the EU is making?
The President is a fink.
June 19th, 2016 at 6:14:32 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
I hope Brexit passes. Why would the Brits would want to keep being part of the mess the EU is making?


BREXIT may be followed by the exit of Sweden (Norway and Iceland were never part of EU, Finland is part of Eurozone, and Denmark currency is very tied to Germany).

Queen Elizabeth's domains include UK , Canada, Australia, and New Zealand and some minor places. If UK and Canada were to integrate currencies they would have a nominal GDP higher than that of Japan with a smaller population.

Quote: statistics

IMF DATA for countries in 2015
#3 Japan $4,123,258
#4 Germany $3,357,614
#5 United Kingdom $2,849,345
#6 France $2,421,560
#7 India $2,090,706
#8 Italy $1,815,757
#9 Brazil $1,772,589
#10 Canada $1,552,386

Gross State Product for four largest state
California $2,448,467
Texas $1,639,375
New York $1,455,568
Florida $893,189

California is now higher than France for the 6th largest economy in the world

Population estimate, July 1, 2015
California 39,144,818
Texas 27,469,114
Florida 20,271,272
New York 19,795,791

But if you combine the numbers and get Gross State Product per person it is telling. California is still well below New York, and while it is ahead of Texas, the Economic growth in Texas is considerably higher than California

$73,529 New York
$62,549 California
$59,681 Texas
$44,062 Florida
June 19th, 2016 at 6:38:09 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin
BREXIT may be followed by the exit of Sweden (Norway and Iceland were never part of EU, Finland is part of Eurozone, and Denmark currency is very tied to Germany).

Queen Elizabeth's domains include UK , Canada, Australia, and New Zealand and some minor places. If UK and Canada were to integrate currencies they would have a nominal GDP higher than that of Japan with a smaller population.


If the Brits were smart they would start forming a union/Free Trade area with the USA, Canada, Oz NZ, and maybe India. Sort of the Commonwealth plus the USA. With a common language, it would be a real force. Given the direction the world has been going it may be time.

Germany would then be near unobstructed to dominate the shrunken EU. Who would stop them? France? Their next logical step would be a bear-hug with Poland, making an export-machine of the first order. The rest of Europe would collapse to one extent or another. While it is a dream, crazier things have happened there.
The President is a fink.
June 19th, 2016 at 8:08:00 PM permalink
Evenbob
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GDP for the US is 16 trillion. With China,
they have more than 50% of the worlds
GDP between them.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 20th, 2016 at 3:10:54 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
GDP for the US is 16 trillion. With China,
they have more than 50% of the worlds
GDP between them.


Kind of scary for the world. A huge part of China's growth has been in supplying the USA and the Harbor Freights of the world. Much of it remains in a third world state. The majority of the population of the world is unproductive and poor. Too many nations simply try to pull themselves up by exporting to rich countries, never stimulating a domestic market. China kind of sees they need to do this, but they are wasting so much money building unneeded things to be scary. As Americans get more and more financially tapped out what happens?
The President is a fink.
June 20th, 2016 at 3:18:13 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: AZDuffman
. The majority of the population of the world is unproductive and poor.
With 3d printing, robotic manufacturing and robotic shipments... who needs people for workers anymore? Soldiers perhaps? consumers perhaps? but workers? Why? Drones will shortly do inventory at WalMart.
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