Trump vs Hillary 2016

Quote: Nareed

How about a law that allows states to impose tariffs and other barriers to items from out of state? You know, to protect Californian, Coloradan, Illinoisan, Texan, etc. jobs from unfair competition from other states. And to recoup cash paid as income tax by state citizens that is given to other states. Why should money from Angelino families have to pay for schools in Third-world states? And why should Boeing be allowed to take jobs away from Washingtonians and give them to people in some eastern state?

That's one of the few things the federal government is supposed to be involved in. The UCC codifies it.

Such a shame this will never hit
the stands.

Quote: Evenbob

Such a shame this will never hit
the stands.

"At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

Why hasn't Thieving Donald said a word about US jobs "exported" to Canada? GM, Chrysler and Ford all operate parts and assembly factories in Canada. I suppose all those factories, with their jobs, could be moved back to the US. Why the fixation on auto plants in Mexico only?

Quote: Nareed

Why hasn't Thieving Donald said a word about US jobs "exported" to Canada? GM, Chrysler and Ford all operate parts and assembly factories in Canada. I suppose all those factories, with their jobs, could be moved back to the US. Why the fixation on auto plants in Mexico only?

NAFTA covers Canada also. There is lots of concern here as well about "tearing up NAFTA". You don't follow much Canadian news eh.

Quote: kenarman

NAFTA covers Canada also. There is lots of concern here as well about "tearing up NAFTA". You don't follow much Canadian news eh.

Yeah. The difference is that we're not being flooded by Canadian rapists and murderers.

It was a lot easier for Trump to bloviate about Mexicans than Canadians. Joe Sixpack in the redneck flyover states hates Mexicans but is generally OK with Canadians. So it was OK for Trump to accuse Mexico, but not Canada, of taking away American jobs.

Of course, the fact is that trade CREATES jobs and the presence of auto parts and assembly facilities in Canada and Mexico CREATES jobs in the US. Of course, Trumpers are far too thick to comprehend that.

So you are saying instead of looking for Made In USA when I am shopping, I should be looking for Assembled In USA instead.
Thanks for enlightening me.

Quote: buzzardknot

So you are saying instead of looking for Made In USA when I am shopping, I should be looking for Assembled In USA instead.
Thanks for enlightening me.

Apparently, you are not all that enlightened quite yet. You shouldn't care about where the item is made or assembled--only that it's a good value for the money and fulfills the purpose for which you bought it. Trade occurs when someone thinks a good is worth buying AND someone else thinks it is worth selling at the same price. Obviously, the more locations a given good is made, the better the chances that transactions will occur. If you restrict yourself to "(whatever) in the USA" goods, you are less likely to find what you want at the price you want.
It's misplaced pseudo-patriotism to say that purchasing domestically produced goods is somehow more noble than purchasing imported goods. By definition, if you understand trade (and most Republicans apparently don't), having imported goods available to compete with domestic goods is a win-win situation for everybody.

Quote: stinkingliberal

Apparently, you are not all that enlightened quite yet. You shouldn't care about where the item is made or assembled--only that it's a good value for the money and fulfills the purpose for which you bought it. Trade occurs when someone thinks a good is worth buying AND someone else thinks it is worth selling at the same price. Obviously, the more locations a given good is made, the better the chances that transactions will occur. If you restrict yourself to "(whatever) in the USA" goods, you are less likely to find what you want at the price you want.
It's misplaced pseudo-patriotism to say that purchasing domestically produced goods is somehow more noble than purchasing imported goods. By definition, if you understand trade (and most Republicans apparently don't), having imported goods available to compete with domestic goods is a win-win situation for everybody.

That's true only with a level playing field.

Quote: pew

That's true only with a level playing field.

She or he (not sure if we have been told yet) seems to be trying do describe what is called "Comparative Advantage" in a roundabout way. For example, Mexico can grow tomatoes better than we can in the USA. The USA can grow apples better than Mexico. So if there were totally free trade then both sides do better because there will be more products in total for everyone to have at a lower price.

It is an unusual position for someone who calls themselves a liberal to take to defend free trade since almost forever liberals have favored trade restrictions of all kinds and been against freer trade. Unions and environmentalists have generally been against, as have liberals who just do not like that there are jobs provided to people in poorer countries at wages lower than the USA.

I have to wonder why the sudden rush off the liberal reservation?