Two Gods or One
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May 31st, 2016 at 11:14:08 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18777 |
Anyway, when you get to Heaven do you suppose God will show you the Catholics were the ones who were right? You seem to firmly insist that you are right on certain scriptural issues over other Christians. I think it's funny you can be so certain. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 31st, 2016 at 11:52:43 PM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 |
Not really. It's called faith. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
June 1st, 2016 at 12:07:37 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Which is something I will never understand. Religious faith in something that has no proof, no evidence, just because it sounds good you want it to be true Or somebody taught you it's OK because they do it. I have faith the plane I get on will fly because I can see the science behind it. I can see the data, I can see other planes flying. I have yet to have a dead relative come back and tell me it's the right thing to believe in Jesus. Has anybody? I didn't think so. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 1st, 2016 at 12:18:29 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18777 |
Well, I would go with that, but I think FrGamble has gotten to the point where he insists there is evidence for God -- enough evidence to declare him real as anything else. So, he's the one talking to the real god, I guess. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 1st, 2016 at 6:24:13 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Theists try really hard, but even they don't manage to be all wrong all the time. As Sheldon Cooper would say "it's statistically unlikely." Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 1st, 2016 at 6:27:45 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Very unlikely. After passing through a series of perils and trials, you'll stand judgment before Thoth, the Divine Scribe. If He tells you anything, it won't be that a false religion which prayed to a false god was right. He'll be more interested in your actions than in your beliefs anyway. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 1st, 2016 at 6:44:23 AM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 |
Yes. FrGamble's evidence for God is also faith. Because it never looks like real evidence to me. But if it does to him, all well and good. But what always gets me is his complete unwillingness to understand that you don't need a divine power to be a moral being. The existence of morality does necessitate a God. Or vice versus. And how offensively he holds that position towards atheists. Or that the prime mover concept does not lead us to require a moralistic, divine being. It always starts with God exists as per the Bible, so therefore these things are true. Its a terrible axiom to prove the existence of the Roman Catholic God. It's a fine one to have when arguing about the details of faith in your religious community. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
June 1st, 2016 at 7:29:02 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
What gets me is he, and about 99.9999% of all other Christian and overall theistic apologists, don't even realize the impression they give of themselves. Briefly put, they seem to be saying "Without the threat of eternal damnation, I'd be a nihilist who'd value nothing and care for no one, and I'd get my jollies getting high, raping and grabbing whatever I want." OR, at the very least, they'd still be moral, but everyone else would be the kind of wild beast described above. In this case they show how little they think of humanity, not to mention everyone they've ever met personally. No wonder they need a cruel, vindictive deity who professes "love" in some ineffable kind of sense. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 1st, 2016 at 8:14:15 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You nailed it. Theists are so wrong so often that I just take it for granted. It's not that I'm wrong all the time, that's not possible. It's that FrG is so wrong most of the time and I'm so used to it, I don't even look at it as being wrong anymore. I just accept it as Christians having a 'problem'. Like my Uncle Jake who thinks he's Teddy Roosevelt. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 1st, 2016 at 8:21:37 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Yes, this is why I tread lightly around Christians in my real life. They give the impression that without their belief in god constantly reigning them in every minute, they would go absolutely nuts and go postal on everybody. It's why I never argue with them, and pat them on the head like they're children. They have so little faith in their innate moral character that they frighten me. Like losing faith in god would give them permission to become monsters. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |