Corporate Death Watch
June 17th, 2018 at 1:26:37 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/owners-of-failing-malls-on-their-knees-as-buyers-disappear/ar-AAyxbfB?ocid=spartanntp You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 17th, 2018 at 2:02:42 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The local enclosed mall that opened in 1973 (converted from a strip mall) just spent $5 million makeover and brought in SkyZone trampoline park. Less than two years later the anchor department store declared bankruptcy. Almost all the storefronts are empty. A nearby outdoor mall looks like this now for about four years. |
June 17th, 2018 at 4:55:14 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Haven't been in a mall in 25 years, can't imagine why I would go there. I have Walmart, Meijer (similar to Walmart), and Home Depot for home stuff. And Dollar Tree. This is Meijer, they have 160 stores in 5 states. I go for the produce, they have a enormous selection. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 17th, 2018 at 5:02:24 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18209 |
I keep going to the one where I went growing up. Once almost 200 stores down to 12 and falling. What is amazing is that Victoria's Secret + Bath and Body Works seem to remain profitable. This mall has the feeling of a bombed out city in 1945, but those two places are well kept and seem to keep doing business. The President is a fink. |
June 17th, 2018 at 5:20:29 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
By 1975 there were 16,400 malls making up 33% of all retail sales and by 1987 there were 30,000 malls accounting for 50% of all retail dollars spent. The mall had taken over America. Mall culture had truly arrived in the United States. Films and TV shows proliferated the idea of the “valley girl,” and the “mall rat.” In 1992, at the height of mall culture, The Mall of America, not too far from the first mall in Edina, Minnesota, opened its doors. The Mall of America occupied 78 acres making it the largest mall in the United States. On opening day The Mall of America had 330 stores, an amusement park, and employed 10,000 people. By the mid-1990s, however, the concept of "the mall" had hit its peak. 140 malls were being built a year, creating too much competition. The first two big malls opened here in 1967. It was a huge deal. Gigantic. The big one even had a movieplex, no more going into the city for a movie. I remember going to the mall every day in 1990 to walk. There were walkers everywhere, I wonder if they still do that in the winter. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 17th, 2018 at 5:32:37 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18209 |
People used to go to the mall just to kill time. Maybe you bought something while you were there. A kind of main street. It got you out of the house and social. Eventually the "senior mall walker" was the morning clientele. My secretary worked at Burger King before with a free coffee for seniors with any purchase, and they all bought a cookie, cheapest thing. Her store led in cookie sales. The internet let you virtually get out, then groups like meetup.com gave social outlets. ISP, cell phone, and increasing cable costs all started eating into that disposable "maybe you bought something" money. Now it is mostly gone. Some walkers, but not what there used to be. The "mall store chains" are mostly gone. Radio Shack to Merry-Go-Round. Remember the record store? By the early 1990s, those little mall stores were consolidating, more space but less stores. IMHO, some will remain, and they will have to remodel and look new. Check out the new mall under the new WTC. It is done in white and real clean looking. Almost hurts the eyes. But people love it. It will be new kinds of stores. Though nowhere near the square footage that we have now. The President is a fink. |
June 17th, 2018 at 6:21:30 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | There is one in New Jersey, Phillipsburg Mall 1200 Route 22 Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 • Phone: (908) 454-4760 It was sold to Mason Asset Management for $11.5 million in 2013 (578,925 square feet) or roughly $20 square foot. A national average of stands between $325 and $450 for new construction of many mall projects. Now it looks like they overpaid at $11.5 million. I was shocked. There were four anchors, J.C. Penney, Sears, Bon-Ton and Kohl’s. Since then three of the four anchors close, and only Kohl's remains open. An antique store moved into the JC Penney location. Basically it's a half a million square feet of junk. Before the last closing it was ranked #27 out of 29 malls in New Jersey. Black Rose Antiques Kohl’s Victoria’s Secret H&M Old Navy Kay Jewelers Asian Gifts AT&T Bath & Body Works Blue Mars Vapor GameStop GNC Live Well Matthew’s Hallmark Men’s Wearhouse and Tux Piercing Pagoda Spin Me Round Sports Collectibles T-Mobile Verizon Wireless Luxury Nails & Spa MasterCuts iFix & More McMann Tax Service Phillipsburg Family Dental Regis Relaxation Spa Gold’s Gym Weight Watchers Trans-Bridge Lines and Tours Bruno’s Pizza Chick-fil-A Starbucks Panera Bread Taco Bell Friendly’s |
June 17th, 2018 at 8:08:39 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I don't know how Kohl's is open. They're prices suck. I have a Kohl's CC and never use it. Whenever I need something Walmart and Target always have same item much cheaper. The only thing I can figure is Kohl's will give credit to almost anybody, that's why they're still in business. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 17th, 2018 at 11:37:34 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Well I doubt that Kohl's can stay open as the only department store in a 600K square foot mall. There are four other Kohls in the region. The owners have essentially given up and will probably knock down the mall and try to build office space. The five fast food places are built on pads separate from the main mall. Only the pizza place is actually in the mall itself. Bruno’s Pizza Chick-fil-A Starbucks Panera Bread Taco Bell Friendly’s |
June 18th, 2018 at 6:36:57 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4966 |
I would say that I buy the majority of my casual clothes at Kohl;s. Their prices always seemed good to me for the quality. I use Kohls.com, I do not go into the store. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |