Beyonce half time show offensive?

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January 25th, 2017 at 1:08:31 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: terapined
That's false BLM
You have a BLM member right here on the forum
Just ask for my input
Of course it will be reasonable and you only listen to the extremists on the left

From a real BLM member
I was fine with the protest march
I am not upset
I am giddy :-)


How do I know you are not "false BLM."

Hate to break it to you, but you do not get to decide "real" and "false" BLM.

BLM upset that nobody got arrested. BLM upset someone gets more attention than they did. BLM becoming more and more of a joke by the day.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
January 25th, 2017 at 1:10:10 PM permalink
Face
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: terapined

You have a BLM member right here on the forum
Just ask for my input


How did BLM get started, what's their message, and why do you support them?
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January 25th, 2017 at 1:14:24 PM permalink
ams288
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This year's halftime performer is Lady Gaga. She's been warned not to mention Donald.

I doubt she would do that anyway on the biggest stage of her career...
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 25th, 2017 at 1:40:55 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: ams288
This year's halftime performer is Lady Gaga. She's been warned not to mention Donald.

I doubt she would do that anyway on the biggest stage of her career...


I assume the elipses = joking.

Thanks for the notice. I've a reason to watch now.
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January 25th, 2017 at 1:44:32 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: Face
I assume the elipses = joking.


No, I was serious.

This may sound weird, but Lady Gaga takes her "art" seriously. If she spoke out about Donald, that'd be what everyone talks about the next day (along with Donald's ensuing "Gaga = overrated" tweets).

She'll want them talking about her performance.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 25th, 2017 at 1:51:27 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: ams288
No, I was serious.

This may sound weird, but Lady Gaga takes her "art" seriously. If she spoke out about Donald, that'd be what everyone talks about the next day (along with Donald's ensuing "Gaga = overrated" tweets).

She'll want them talking about her performance.


Oh, I've no doubt she takes it serious. She strikes me as a very serious person, which is why I believe she ABSOLUTELY WILL soapbox a bit. Though now that I'm thinking of it, I'd reckon she'd be the type to not say one single word but somehow dress or act in a way that's nothing but talking about Trump.

In fact, I'll go ahead and guarantee it right now. Since the Don has been seen as so divisive, especially when it comes to the wiminz / sexuality, her shtick demands it be addressed. I'd reckon that her supporters would look at it as an offense if she did not.

I'll also go on record as saying it will be well received with little room to attack it.
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January 25th, 2017 at 2:21:19 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Face
How did BLM get started, what's their message, and why do you support them?


A lot of honest hard working black people are often stopped by cops simply due to their color
If I had a white child, I would say go out and drive and have fun. If you get stopped, no biggie, white lives matter to the police.
If I had a black child, I would say be very careful out there, police are very suspicious of you and may assume you are a criminal simply due to your color.
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 25th, 2017 at 2:50:40 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: AZDuffman
How do I know you are not "false BLM.".

I am not an extremist.
I am not in lock step with any leader, I think for myself
You on the other hand are in lock step with your leader Trump. Trump does all your thinking and you defend every dumb thing he does :-)

Your illogical thinking
Any extremist on the left represents the left

My logical thinking
Any extremist on the right does not represent the right
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 26th, 2017 at 1:46:11 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: terapined
A lot of honest hard working black people are often stopped by cops simply due to their color
If I had a white child, I would say go out and drive and have fun. If you get stopped, no biggie, white lives matter to the police.
If I had a black child, I would say be very careful out there, police are very suspicious of you and may assume you are a criminal simply due to your color.


This is frustrating me.

This is my impression of you. You don't have to correct each and every thing; it's just my opinion. But feel free to correct if I'm wayyy off base...

You strike me as the kind of guy who, if he happened upon a group of guys talking loudly and aggressively, you'd avoid them. You'd not standby to break up a fight, and sure as hell wouldn't get involved in a fight. You would distance yourself from the situation.

You strike me as a guy who would toss change at a bum, console a stray dog, or buy Girl Scout cookies you had no intention of eating.

You strike me as a guy who if I got in your face, you'd do little about it. No matter what I said or what I did, you'd turn the other cheek. I'd expect you'd try to talk me down or otherwise verbally assuage the situation, but if you could not "fix" it in this fashion, you'd avoid it. In other words, a stereotypical kind-hearted pacifist.

So what if I called you "My Christian friend terapined"? Even considering our friend FrG, I'd probably list you as "Most Christ-like" of our forum members. With the exception of FrG, I'd rate your lifestyle and your beliefs to be more in tune with the way of the Jesus than anyone here. Your views and His views, to me, are very, very similar indeed. His message and the way you comport yourself are close cousins if not fraternal siblings.

I'd guess you don't accept the title of "Christian" because despite your similarities, Christianity represents a number of things which you absolutely do not accept. Things like the supernatural, or the judgement of others' behavior. So, if this is accurate, why in all of the hells do you do it with BLM?

It's right there to see. BLM sort of "came to be" with Trayvon Martin. WTF does Martin have to do with your stance on profiling or, to expand, on police brutality? That Florida f#$%arow was between civilians. 5-0 had nothing to do with it. Perhaps you're against your state's Stand Your Ground laws. I know you are, and that's fine. But laws are not police. Laws are House, Senate, Congress, the Legislative branch. You got a problem with SYG, take it up with them. Perhaps, rather, you are pissed that no one was found guilty of wrongdoing. That's a fair stance that not few hold. Ah, but that's a judge who came with that part. You know, the Judicial branch. The Executive branch, which the police belong to, had no play in this other than answering the call and filing the report. Brutality, profiling, whatever hip buzzword of the week you wanna use had no part in this. Yet this "organization" that you are a part of demonizes our Boys in Blue throws it all on them...why, exactly? And, more important to me, you support them on this because...???

BLM gained a f#$% ton of momentum with Brown. Brown was shown on video tape assaulting and battering an innocent civilian. When police arrived to deal with him, he became combative with them. Now, I realize you may not understand this due to your extreme anti-gun, hyper pacifistic stance, but when someone intends to harm you, it is your right (and I'd include "responsibility") to defend yourself. Additionally, as one who totes a gun, you are not only responsible for protecting your person, but you are also responsible and required to protect that firearm. Even if you're the most self loathing mf'er out there who doesn't care about your life, you are required to protect that firearm so that it is not taken from you and used for further ill. In short, if you have a gun and are attacked, you MUST respond with force. This may not be well understood for civs, but it should be completely obvious when it comes to police. If you attack the police, forget even assaulting but literally attacking and battering, you are going to get shot.

Yet BLM defends this. BLM goes ape s#$% on the police... because a citizen killed a citizen and no one went to jail. BLM goes ape s#$% on the police... because a citizen attacked an officer and got shot. We haven't even gotten to BLM's penchant for violence and destruction yet, and I'm not even going to go that far. Just take a look at the two moments that gave this org its life.

What f#$%ing part of this do you support, and why? I get your values, I understand those just fine. You see the good in people, you don't let a few bad eggs spoil your opinion on breakfast, you don't judge folks based on color, creed, or religious belief. All good things, all things I likewise try to do. I. Get. It. What I don't get is why you chose to "become part of" some whackado organization that is so unlike who you are, and conducts themselves in ways you dislike. I mean, every time BLM is brought up, you say "that's not real BLM". And I say "every time" because it IS every time. Because every time they're brought up it's because they're acting like assholes. Because a majority of its members are assholes.

You're BLM? Nah, friend. Seems to me you're just as much BLM as you are LDS. You're not LDS because of reasons. And for the life of me I cannot understand how you don't see those same reasons apply to BLM.
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January 26th, 2017 at 2:59:22 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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BLM has no official membership
Members of BLM have many differing views
I look at each case individually
I actually defended the police against Brown. I will not defend any person that attacks an officer as Michael Brown did.
but
I also defended the black mental health worker that was shot for no reason as he tried to retrieve a patient in the road playing with a toy truck
Every case is different

I kind of equate BLM with the anti-war movement in the 60's and 70's
Some protestors were peaceful, some were not
Strategy to fight against the war varied widely just as BLM actions vary widely
Overall the anti war movement was peaceful as BLM are
Are their instances of radical extremists causing trouble, of course
But radicals extremists do not represent an entire group unless you are AZ

I support BLM because to me Black Lives Matter
That's all.
I don't agree with some tactics just as I did not agree with some of the anti-war tactics in the 60's and 70's

I do love Jesus and his teachings
Simply don't believe in the immaculate conception or god


Have you met any BLM members personally? TV does not count
Extremists get TV time, regular peaceful membership is never on TV.
Peaceful BLM is not much of a story for say Foxnews. That's not a story they are willing to cover because it does not fit with their propaganda
I have, at the Trump rally.
Nice people
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"